GDT: The Alberta Election 2012 - The Morning After - PC Majority Government

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Questioning the policing capability of one candidate doesn't mean I support the other. Although at the end of the day, while the PC's might make financial mistakes in the next 4 years, at least they go towards policy ideas that may have some sort of long-term benefit.

I hated Ralph bucks and I hated this policy promise too. At the end of the day, I elect a leader to make some of these hard decisions for us, not shirk away from responsibility. To me it showed a lack of financial leadership, and no big picture vision.

Neither leader made a fiscal platform that resonated with me. But with Allison she's of the mindset that she can keep throwing money at the health care system and the education system and they'll fix themselves. Its lazy neo right thinking and I find it sad that most doctors looked at Redford's health policies and burst out laughing.

Redford isn't going to tear into the health system and fix frontline delivery she's going to suck up to the Unions and just throw money at it and the system is going to get more and more bloated on the back end.

When Alberta is spending up to $2000.00 per person per year more then any other province and our health care system is in crisis and our education system is rotting then there's a trouble.

but hey good for the Unions, pay raises all around with Aunty Allison in charge, I mean she does have to pay them back for winning the leadership race.

[edn88]

Glad to see the Wildrose party didn't get the majority everyone was predicting. Also might be a wakeup call for the PC party that they actually have voters that they have to pay attention to.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by edn88

Glad to see the Wildrose party didn't get the majority everyone was predicting. Also might be a wakeup call for the PC party that they actually have voters that they have to pay attention to.

Huh, they won a overwhelming majority, its business as usual, they know Albertan's either won't show up on election day which is what the conservatives want, or they're too lazy or frightend to ask for change.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Dion

I disagree. Why would anyone support a free spending policy of Redford?

LOL. Well, 419,902 of Albertans so far support "a free spending policy of Redford", as you put it.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

Wow, was I ever fooled...by both the polling and my estimate of Albertans' courage. I never thought we'd see such a massive majority based on so many "frightened" votes. After having derided Ontario for the better part of a decade for voting for "the devil you know," (the federal Liberals) we've now had people doing exactly the same thing here.

Meh, I wasn't feareful of anything the WR said. Just simply didn't agree with most of it. That's still allowed, right?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I was really hoping Kyle Fawcett got his ass handed to him after robocalling me constantly.

I've never had PC candidate Linda Johnson call me, not even once, but I had Raj Sherman called everyday for the past few days, even this morning before I went to work. He had his daughter Robocalled me and offered me a ride to the polling station.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Ace

There is no way this is true. The PC's basically took the Liberal vote which is a direct result of those voters wanting to avoid the move to the right...

... because, in my view, they clearly preferred the move to the left proposed by Redford.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Meh, I wasn't feareful of anything the WR said. Just simply didn't agree with most of it. That's still allowed, right?

Sure. I think the questions are more about the huge discrepancy between the polling earlier and the actuals. Unless you told pollsters you were voting WRP and changed your mind?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Huh, they won a overwhelming majority, its business as usual, they know Albertan's either won't show up on election day which is what the conservatives want, or they're too lazy or frightend to ask for change.

May be the majority of Albertans are sick of the empty promise of "change"? Or may be they just don't believe in what the WR was selling? Just my thought.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Questioning the policing capability of one candidate doesn't mean I support the other. Although at the end of the day, while the PC's might make financial mistakes in the next 4 years, at least they go towards policy ideas that may have some sort of long-term benefit.

I hated Ralph bucks and I hated this policy promise too. At the end of the day, I elect a leader to make some of these hard decisions for us, not shirk away from responsibility. To me it showed a lack of financial leadership, and no big picture vision.

I have no faith that Redford will make the right descions. She was the one that originaly was going to nothing about the no pay comittee and still would have if not for the election. Then there the tax credit to teachers or the promise of help to First responders as to workers comp - that smacks of vote buying. I also want to know the truth about bullying in health care but have doubts we will see a serious investigation.

I'm also tired of the PC hypocrisy. How can you tell public sector workers to tighten thier belts as to pay raises when you as a party vote yourselves 30% pay raises

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Meh, I wasn't feareful of anything the WR said. Just simply didn't agree with most of it. That's still allowed, right?

To kind of second this, with a twist, I don't agree with what either leader says and think both plans are out to lunch on several points.

That's why I wanted a minority result, so they wouldn't be able to do too much damage in the time it took for a vote of non-confidence. it is ironic, that people who didn't want to give the WRP too much power, could have contributed to it going back the other way.

All said, this isn't as bad a day for Alberta as it could have been, but it sure could have been better.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

May be the majority of Albertans are sick of the empty promise of "change"? Or may be they just don't believe in what the WR was selling? Just my thought.

Because promises of change are most credible (least empty) when they come from parties in power for 41 years?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

But with Allison she's of the mindset that she can keep throwing money at the health care system and the education system and they'll fix themselves.

Sounds like me and a bar tab ... I can get behind this school of thought.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Makarov

LOL. Well, 419,902 of Albertans so far support "a free spending policy of Redford", as you put it.

I hope they don't complain about the spending policies of the PC in the next 4 years.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Neither leader made a fiscal platform that resonated with me. But with Allison she's of the mindset that she can keep throwing money at the health care system and the education system and they'll fix themselves. Its lazy neo right thinking and I find it sad that most doctors looked at Redford's health policies and burst out laughing

See, that's what I felt about the Wildrose fiscal platform though. They made all these promises to fix health care, invest in education, but made no mention of how they were going to do that or pay for that. Then they went on to say they would lower taxes, give out dividends, etc. Where is all this money coming from? And what makes them think, with no experience, that they can do all that?

They were living in a dream world. It's nice to promise things and say you're going to be fiscally conservative and cut out waste and such, but they were low on specifics. Had they laid it out for me in black and white I woulda jumped all over that, but I took their whole platform right off their site.

Had they made it in and they had to keep their promises they could have very well been throwing money at various fires too. Cause the things they were promising were certainly going to cost.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Because promises of change are most credible (least empty) when they come from parties in power for 41 years?

Wait, didn't the WRP say that the PC party had changed and left them behind? How is it empty in any way if it happened in the past and was the reason the WRP party was saying the PCs should be kicked out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I won't comment on why, but just wanted to mention that your pair of rose coloured glasses also come in a shade that supports spending.

Didn't WR have a smaller spending promise than the PC's?

[nik-]

Why is Edmonton so left compared to Calgary?

[Makarov]

Come on, Raj! Liberals desperately need that fourth seat.

[Table 5]

Dion, Captain....I don't disagree with a lot of your points, and wasn't crazy about what the PC's had to say either. I guess at the end of the day though, as with most voters, some issues resonated with me more than others.