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Old 03-12-2011, 07:54 PM   #341
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Hope everyone in Japan had a decent night last night, CET and Commodore. Thanks to Commodore for providing that link yesterday. I still can't read all of it buy had my wife help me out with the rest. Definately puts my mind at ease. Was up late trying to check out more info on the subject. Lots of people starting to panic a little, but the more I read, and the more friends I chat with, definately seems like a bit of over-reaction. Thanks again for the link.

Took a trip this morning to a 7-11, drugstore, and the local grocery store. There was a lot of empty shelves there. Some of the dried or canned goods are sold out or on the verge of. There was a very large fellow at the drugstore with his shopping cart absolutely overflowing with cup-o-ramen. The power returned to all areas of my city yesterday, but we are urged to conserve as much as possible as there is apparently still a chance of blackouts in some areas. Some of the highways have also reopened. I hope all the trains and buses are working for you guys again in Tokyo and Yokohama.
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Hope everyone in Japan had a decent night last night, CET and Commodore. Thanks to Commodore for providing that link yesterday. I still can't read all of it buy had my wife help me out with the rest. Definately puts my mind at ease. Was up late trying to check out more info on the subject. Lots of people starting to panic a little, but the more I read, and the more friends I chat with, definately seems like a bit of over-reaction. Thanks again for the link.

Took a trip this morning to a 7-11, drugstore, and the local grocery store. There was a lot of empty shelves there. Some of the dried or canned goods are sold out or on the verge of. There was a very large fellow at the drugstore with his shopping cart absolutely overflowing with cup-o-ramen. The power returned to all areas of my city yesterday, but we are urged to conserve as much as possible as there is apparently still a chance of blackouts in some areas. Some of the highways have also reopened. I hope all the trains and buses are working for you guys again in Tokyo and Yokohama.
Grocery stores here stocked up, but there are only a handful of gasoline stands with gas...I was luck enough to get some last night. Trains also mostly running in and out of Tokyo.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:26 PM   #344
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Jesus Christ thats un nerving in itself.
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Jesus Christ thats un nerving in itself.
Try being in one of them. Here in Osaka it wasn't nearly as bad. BUT even 8 floors up we were swishing back and forth. Got to have your sea-legs for that!
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Try being in one of them. Here in Osaka it wasn't nearly as bad. BUT even 8 floors up we were swishing back and forth. Got to have your sea-legs for that!
You know something, I've jumped out of 100 different aircraft, repelled out of helicopters, got caught in a Tornado, and stood on a roof drunk during a tropical storm, those things I can handle.

Being helpless in a swaying building with the feeling that there's a possibility that it could collapse.

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Old 03-13-2011, 01:04 AM   #348
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This is my office swaying in an aftershock. We all made it out safely and are in a park nearby but was on the 8th floor when the earthquake hit. Apparently the damage on the top floors (20+) was far more extensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvbpd...el_video_title

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All this #### has been debunked (see my earlier post). Please stop posting this stuff as it increases the stress and amount of stuff people in the affected area have to deal with.
Sorry, I was just trying to help anyone with information they might need. I don't understand what you mean by debunked? The information I gave simply states what to do if there is a nuclear event. I didn't mean to imply it was time to panic. If you read the material it basically says think carefully before you try and travel away from fallout, make sure you have water, stock up on stuff if you don't have enough food etc, figure out a place where you can hole up with lots of mass between yourself and the outside.

Having a bit of extra water on hand and knowing what to do was meant to help you and other cpucker's caught up in this feel less stressed.

Most of what I've read indicates these reactors are built good enough to survive a full melt down with minimal radiation leakage. Also, the prevailing winds are setting up to be offshore for the next while.
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Death toll upped to an estimated 10,000+. I had a feeling that would happen. Terrible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12724953

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Old 03-13-2011, 03:00 AM   #351
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My wife was just telling me she heard on the news, they are advising caution as there could be another quake soon. COULD be, not for sure. From the 12th to 15th there is a 70% chance, from the 15th to 19th a 50% chance and from the 19th to the end of a one month period after the big quakes a 30% chance. Don't know if any others in Japan have heard anything about this, but please comment if you have. Apparently the estimate was for about 6.0-7.0M in strength, really hope not. Be careful everyone.

Coming home from work tonight I noticed the shelves have been restocked in stores quite a bit, so that's a good thing obviously. Glad to hear HOZ in Osaka is ok. I have a few friends there and also in Nagoya who gave similar reports. It's amazing how far away it was felt. I was only on the 3rd floor of an apartment building in Kanagawa, but that was enough for me. Felt like the building was twisting and swaying back and forth, and I couldn't stay on my feet for about a minute. I'm glad to see on the tv some food and water supplies making to the people up north. Those people really need the help right now. Can't imagine being suddenly homeless and not knowing where some of my family or friends are.

edit: Just as I finished typing this the warning came up on the tv again. Be safe everyone!

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Just saw a story about a story about a 60-ish yr old man found on the wreckage of his house 15km out in the ocean.
He was running to get away but went back to his house to get something and got caught in the Tsunami surge and then swept out to sea. He was waving a small flag but none of helicopters or ships saw him until mid-day today.
I keep warily following the news of the reactor troubles hoping they get it under control.
There was a run on bottled water in our area (near Shimokitazawa) and most shops were low on supplies of bread and water. I guess as a result of the various rumours about the nuclear risk a lot of housewives were snapping up the kombu which contains a lot of iodine. I was told that the drug stores and pharmacies do not sell Potasium Iodide so they are all buying the dried kombu seaweed. I agree that the rumours circulating are not at all helpful.
Not as many tremors today.
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Looks like rolling power blackouts are on the way for the Kanto region. They announced a proposed schedule on tv, maybe starting tomorrow. I'm looking for a schedule online to post here but haven't been able to find one yet. The JMA also announced that the 8.9 quake was actually 9.0.
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Just saw a story about a story about a 60-ish yr old man found on the wreckage of his house 15km out in the ocean.
He was running to get away but went back to his house to get something and got caught in the Tsunami surge and then swept out to sea. He was waving a small flag but none of helicopters or ships saw him until mid-day today.
I keep warily following the news of the reactor troubles hoping they get it under control.
There was a run on bottled water in our area (near Shimokitazawa) and most shops were low on supplies of bread and water. I guess as a result of the various rumours about the nuclear risk a lot of housewives were snapping up the kombu which contains a lot of iodine. I was told that the drug stores and pharmacies do not sell Potasium Iodide so they are all buying the dried kombu seaweed. I agree that the rumours circulating are not at all helpful.
Not as many tremors today.

LINK to STORY


Quake raised to 9.0
#3 reactor about to blow.
and tsunami warnings have been lifted.
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Looks like rolling power blackouts are on the way for the Kanto region. They announced a proposed schedule on tv, maybe starting tomorrow. I'm looking for a schedule online to post here but haven't been able to find one yet. The JMA also announced that the 8.9 quake was actually 9.0.
There's a PDF but apparently they'll be revising it. Depending on where you are in Shizuoka you'll be in groups 1,2 or 5. (1= 6:20-10am and 4:50-8:00, 2=9:20-13:00 and 6:20-10:00, 5= 13:20-19:00)

Download the PDF here.
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FWIW - may change tho...
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From what I can gather about the reactors in trouble is that there is little they can do at this point about stopping them from doing so, but more that they need to make sure the containment area is intact to stop radiation from spreading. This has been working to this point but the problem is that when this happens, hydrogen builds up and then explodes much like happened yesterday.

really frightening stuff and the last thing you guys in that part of the world needs to be dealing with.
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Being helpless in a swaying building with the feeling that there's a possibility that it could collapse.

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From the few shows I recall about how earthquake ready Japan is, isn't this all by design? The buildings are all on I'm going to say "giant dampers" which allow the buldings to move like that and absorb or dissipate the energy whereas our buildings in NA are all locked to the ground and as a result would fair much worse.
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Skyscrapers in NA sway as well. Perhaps not as much as Japan, but all buildings do. You are correct, they are designed to do so.
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Some more info on the blackouts for those that may need it.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/index-j.html

http://www.tepco.co.jp/images/tokyo.pdf

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...Ux&hl=en&pli=1

http://www.tepco.co.jp/index-j.html

Their servers are probably overloaded a bit right now so hopefully these work out and aren't too slow. I'm in Hiratsuka city in Kanagawa, and we'll have no power from 6:20am-10am, then maybe again in the early evening. Not sure if the trains will be affected, I've heard that the JR lines will be running normally or close to, but some of the private lines will be down. Take care everyone.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/ja...eforeafter.htm

Scary how much different these look.
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