2023 NCAA football thread

[Jason14h]

Texas beat Bama and Bama beat Georgia

No way you can put Georgia over Texas

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Texas beat Bama and Bama beat Georgia

No way you can put Georgia over Texas

So we can't put any team that lost to other teams in?

Are we putting in all the teams that beat Oklahoma since they beat Texas?

Or just put Oklahoma in ahead of Texas?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Spurs

So we can't put any team that lost to other teams in?

Are we putting in all the teams that beat Oklahoma since they beat Texas?

Or just put Oklahoma in ahead of Texas?

I’m just explaining why there was zero chance of Georgia getting in

Literally no one is debating they should be in - the debate is Bama or FSU

[Senator Clay Davis]

The dumbest thing is that even now, with all of the money in this sport, there is still not a defined way to qualify for the playoff. Even though I think the committee did the right thing leaving FSU out, there shouldn't even be a committee, should be a clearly defined route to qualification.

[ResAlien]

Florida state should feel pretty cheesed off. They got screwed hard

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Florida state should feel pretty cheesed off. They got screwed hard

They’ll feel better about their exclusion when they lose by 3 TDs to Georgia in a bowl game.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I’m just explaining why there was zero chance of Georgia getting in

Literally no one is debating they should be in - the debate is Bama or FSU

And I am saying if you put Bama in over FSU then you are saying the results of individual games don't matter. So the Texas-Alabama-Georgia results don't matter.

Georgia is clearly one of the best 4 teams in the country on ability if you say that individual games don't matter they should 100% be in, they likely beat all 4 teams in the play-off if they played next week.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Spurs

And I am saying if you put Bama in over FSU then you are saying the results of individual games don't matter. So the Texas-Alabama-Georgia results don't matter.

Georgia is clearly one of the best 4 teams in the country on ability if you say that individual games don't matter they should 100% be in, they likely beat all 4 teams in the play-off if they played next week.

None of what you’re saying makes any sense. There is no eye test criteria.

Putting Bama in over FSU is consistent with the criteria.

The committee clearly followed the established selection criteria.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The dumbest thing is that even now, with all of the money in this sport, there is still not a defined way to qualify for the playoff. Even though I think the committee did the right thing leaving FSU out, there shouldn't even be a committee, should be a clearly defined route to qualification.

This is the problem and the committee has and will contradict itself when making the justification for the teams that they put in.

When they say Texas is above Alabama we will hear about the game they played but then they ignore that FSU won every game they played.

Georgia is out because they lost one game at the wrong time but how does that matter when FSU didn't even lose at all?

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

None of what you’re saying makes any sense. There is no eye test criteria.

Putting Bama in over FSU is consistent with the criteria.

The committee clearly followed the established selection criteria.

No they didn't.

They put in a worse undefeated team in Cincinatti in the past when everyone knew they shouldn't be there but they were undefeated.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Spurs

This is the problem and the committee has and will contradict itself when making the justification for the teams that they put in.

When they say Texas is above Alabama we will hear about the game they played but then they ignore that FSU won every game they played.

Georgia is out because they lost one game at the wrong time but how does that matter when FSU didn't even lose at all?

You keep mixing up the selection criteria.

Texas vs Bama is about head to head. Alabama vs Georgia is about h2h and conference championships. What does that have to do with FSU being undefeated? Record and head to head and injuries are three different criteria.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

You keep mixing up the selection criteria.

Texas vs Bama is about head to head. Alabama vs Georgia is about h2h and conference championships. What does that have to do with FSU being undefeated? Record and head to head and injuries are three different criteria.

I am not mixing up anything and pointing out how the selection committee contradicts itself when making their selections.

It is why everyone knew they wouldn't leave out an SEC team, not because the selection made sense but because the committee wasnt going to leave out an SEC team no matter what.

[Strange Brew]

Well they are trying to pick the best teams. A team that goes undefeated in the SEC is certainly one of the best 4 in the country. It’s not bias.

Maybe they need some different criteria. But no doubt in my mind Alabama is one one of the top 4.

[Kasi]

It’s never been just undefeated and you’re in. Plenty of mid majors have been screwed out. And tbh ACC is a mid major conference this year. Combine that with the eye test and the teams FSU has beaten and it’s pretty easy to see why they’re not in the playoff. Next year will be 12 teams so it won’t matter but FSU just wasn’t in the same league as the other teams who made it, regardless of being undefeated.

[puffnstuff]

I think this year was about selecting the best games for 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 and not looking at what theyve done prior with undefeated majors teams (which was they get in)

[Kasi]

The only reason FSU and Clemson haven’t left the ACC is the punitive TV deal that the conference locked in. To leave you have to pony up over 30 million dollars. The teams are going to court to try and remove that and if successful the ACC will lose its good football schools overnight and like the big east it will become a basketball conference.

[GirlySports]

So there was no way FSU was getting in? Unless one of the other undefeated lost? Even then they could have put Georgia in.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

So there was no way FSU was getting in? Unless one of the other undefeated lost? Even then they could have put Georgia in.

If Georgia had won, FSU would have got the fourth spot. FSU was #4 last week, and Texas was #7. There is no way a one loss Texas should have leapfrogged undefeated FSU by beating a team ranked worse than the team FSU beat.

Texas only passed FSU so they could justify getting Alabama in. You can also factor in Alabama's win making Texas's win against them look stronger. There is no way that Texas passes Florida State if Alabama wasn't a factor.

[SuperMatt18]

It's stupid to leave FSU out. Their QB being injured would have made it tough for them, but they didn't have a weak schedule and still went undefeated.

Embarassing just to justify Alabama and Texas being there for $$$ purposes.

[Jason14h]

FSU is in if they don’t lose their QB

That is the reason they are not in , and completely justifiably