I finally got caught up on Discovery and Strange New Worlds. It was hard getting into Lower Decks, but glad I stuck it out. But I'll having issues with Prodigy. After four episodes, I just can't continue. Tone and look is off for me. And I'm a Voyager fan. Is it worth sticking around for?
I finally got caught up on Discovery and Strange New Worlds. It was hard getting into Lower Decks, but glad I stuck it out. But I'll having issues with Prodigy. After four episodes, I just can't continue. Tone and look is off for me. And I'm a Voyager fan. Is it worth sticking around for?
You caught up on Discovery and you're concerned about Prodigy?
It is aimed at a much lower age demographic, which can make it tough.
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Watched VI The Undiscovered Country and thought it was fantastic. Very much about the cold war, this one felt like a political thriller/mystery that kept you guessing until the end. It was bitter sweet as this is the last movie with the original crew (I think) but it was a hell of a send off. My ranking of the first 6 films goes: 4, 2, 6, 3, 5, 1.
I finally got caught up on Discovery and Strange New Worlds. It was hard getting into Lower Decks, but glad I stuck it out. But I'll having issues with Prodigy. After four episodes, I just can't continue. Tone and look is off for me. And I'm a Voyager fan. Is it worth sticking around for?
No, the characters (especially the main guy) are irritating as hell.
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I didn't like The Motion Picture when I was a kid, but now in retrospect I can see what they were trying to do with it. It's not something I'd go out of my way to watch again, but as much as I still like to joke it's "The Slow-Motion Picture", it's a fine movie.
It's fuzzy, but I look forward to the Borg origin rabbit hole. Depending on if you're on team The Return or team Destiny Trilogy, I guess. Then there was that episode of Enterprise that muddles things . . .
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I didn't like The Motion Picture when I was a kid, but now in retrospect I can see what they were trying to do with it. It's not something I'd go out of my way to watch again, but as much as I still like to joke it's "The Slow-Motion Picture", it's a fine movie.
Honest to God...the most interesting part of TMP is watching the Behind the Scenes parts. Where they interview the people involved in production.
The process of making that film was apparently a gigantic clusterfata as are most things Star Trek and it was so rushed that the film in the cans being used at the Premiere were still wet from editing because the clause they struck with the studios was so heavily punitive it was insane.
Star Trek is so beautiful. Its like this beautiful but horrible monster that lurches from one problem through to the next but somehow always manages to make it through.
Like a comedy of errors that somehow turns into something amazing.
Its like their internal motto was something like: "F' it! We'll figure it out!!"
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I like TMP. Purdy ship, gigantic expansion of the ST universe, good Spock character growth. I don't find it nearly as slow moving as when I was younger.
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I think the thing that really made it feel so slow for me was that I had already seen The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home before seeing The Motion Picture, and although I understood the context of TMP being the first time there was new live-action Star Trek content in a decade, I didn't really appreciate that context.
Why did the fly-by scene revealing the refit Enterprise last so long? Because it was the first time it had been seen in a decade, and it looked spectacular, and the filmmakers wanted to lovingly show it off.
Why did the fly-by entering V'ger's interior take so long, and mostly consist of back-and-forth shots of the special effects contrasted with the bridge crew, mouths agape? Because it was trying to establish scale that I didn't understand and appreciate watching a VHS copy on a 19" CRT TV at home. It was meant to be seen on a big screen. I couldn't tell that this:
Was supposed to be like THIS:
Spoiler!
... so that I could see the teeny, tiny little Enterprise flying by!
I think the thing that really made it feel so slow for me was that I had already seen The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home before seeing The Motion Picture, and although I understood the context of TMP being the first time there was new live-action Star Trek content in a decade, I didn't really appreciate that context.
Why did the fly-by scene revealing the refit Enterprise last so long? Because it was the first time it had been seen in a decade, and it looked spectacular, and the filmmakers wanted to lovingly show it off.
Why did the fly-by entering V'ger's interior take so long, and mostly consist of back-and-forth shots of the special effects contrasted with the bridge crew, mouths agape? Because it was trying to establish scale that I didn't understand and appreciate watching a VHS copy on a 19" CRT TV at home. It was meant to be seen on a big screen. I couldn't tell that this:
Was supposed to be like THIS:
Spoiler!
... so that I could see the teeny, tiny little Enterprise flying by!
It was also the best scene in the entire film.
Whatever else you want to say about TMP that Enterprise was gorgeous.
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I liked TMP, I thought it was a beautifully shot movie for the time. But it was a very cold film. There was none of the humor and closeness of the crew that we were so used to coming after years of no Star Trek.
It was a Star Trek story that Gene Roddenberry always wanted to tell with no malicious enemy and a intellectual mystery to solve.
It was a shame that he was pushed to the side after this, but he kept pushing the same time travel story where the last scene was always going to be Spock standing on a grassy knoll with a rifle ensuring the death of Kennedy.
Eventually that lead to Roddenberry being pushed aside to an advisor role where nobody listened to his advice.
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