April 23 2012: Alberta Provincial Election - Page 177 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

darklord700 · 04-23-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

The fact is, Wild Rose has tapped into a widespread disaffection with the tories, but they've forgotten to tell us how they'll be different.

The one difference is that Redford likes to treat my wallet as her own which Smith doesn't.

old-fart · 04-23-2012, 02:59 PM

There are worse reasons to vote for a particular party.

Personally, I picked the one I'd like to most see on my TV in the next few years and voted on the hotness scale.

And I'm an athiest.

Senator Clay Davis · 04-23-2012, 03:00 PM

What I love is a poll I posted yesterday shows 2/3 people are in favor of Redford's 2 biggest pledges (more schools, more care clinics), and only 44% are in favor of DaniBucks. It's like most people like the PC ideas, they just don't like the MLAs themselves. If Redford was running with a totally clean slate of candidates this election might be a rout.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 04-23-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by darklord700

The one difference is that Redford likes to treat my wallet as her own which Smith doesn't.

You know this from her many years in the Premier's office?

darklord700 · 04-23-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If Redford was running with a totally clean slate of candidates this election might be a rout.

If Redford isn't running behind a named brand (PC) with its huge resources, this election will be a rout too. She would be the perfect leader for NDP, let's see how she fairs if that was the case.

darklord700 · 04-23-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

You know this from her many years in the Premier's office?

I know enough from the six month Redford's in the premier's office.

Senator Clay Davis · 04-23-2012, 03:03 PM

Huge resources? Like how the Wildrose outgained them in campaign contributions by more than $500,000?

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 04-23-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darklord700

I know enough from the six month Redford's in the premier's office.

I see; no doubt you'll tell us exactly what the new taxes are that have been proposed during that six months. I'm not aware of any, but I'm sure I'm wrong.

Yeah_Baby · 04-23-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darklord700

If Redford isn't running behind a named brand (PC) with its huge resources, this election will be a rout too. She would be the perfect leader for NDP, let's see how she fairs if that was the case.

First Lady · 04-23-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

They seem to be the same party with green lawn signs and somewhat less-qualified (and, let's face it, dumber--though apparently pointing that out makes you an elitist. I prefer to think of myself as someone who would prefer that my elected officials have something between the ears) than their PC predecessors. Their braintrust is transplanted from the 1990s PCs (Rod Love, Tom Flanagan, eg)--and I remind you that it was the 1990s PCs under Klein that gave us the legacy of the no-meet committee.

Pretty sure Rod Love isn't involved with WR. The vast majority of the core campaign team are under 30. I feel like old lady when I meet them.

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Who is going to make up the cabinet? Is Ron Leech going to be a minister? Will Hunsberger get the education portfolio?

They will not be elected.

Why do people always point to the worst examples.

Try this guy on for size. He will be an amazing MLA.

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Governance is not easy.

No kidding. You would think after doing it for 40 years they would have it perfected.

darklord700 · 04-23-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I see; no doubt you'll tell us exactly what the new taxes are that have been proposed during that six months. I'm not aware of any, but I'm sure I'm wrong.

I can tell you the new deficit racked up or proposed to be racked up by Redford.

Rerun · 04-23-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

You know this from her many years in the Premier's office?

We know what the PC's are like. We can guess what the Liberals and NDP would be like based on their provincial and federal counterparts.

Most Wild Rose supporters equate the WR party with the federal Conservative party (the WR senatorial candidates even said they would join the federal Conservative caucus if elected) and we know what they are like fiscally and the WR fiscal campaign promisses.... so yes... he can make a pretty good assumption that Smith will keep her hands off his wallet.

Yeah_Baby · 04-23-2012, 03:09 PM

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We can guess what the Liberals and NDP would be like based on their provincial and federal counterparts.

I don't think that is totally fair. But whatever.

First Lady · 04-23-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I see; no doubt you'll tell us exactly what the new taxes are that have been proposed during that six months. I'm not aware of any, but I'm sure I'm wrong.

http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/fron...ump-22212.html

Technically "not a tax"... Guess that makes it okay.

Senator Clay Davis · 04-23-2012, 03:11 PM

But isn't Redford trying to change "The Old PC Way"? I find it weird people blame it all on her like somehow she's been the Premier tha last 40 years. Change doesn't happen overnight, it does take time to get rid of the old way and bring in the new way.

Also no disrespect to Danielle Smith but Redford's resume blows hers away. Like its not even close who has better credentials for the job.

darklord700 · 04-23-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Also no disrespect to Danielle Smith but Redford's resume blows hers away. Like its not even close who has better credentials for the job.

I agreed on Redford's stellar resume so we should vote her out to give her a chance to take on some human right pro bono cases in South Africa.

MoneyGuy · 04-23-2012, 03:14 PM

I don't know if he enhance the PCs' chances and I don't think he'd be a popular choice on this site, but I think this province would be better run if Doug Horner had won the leadership. I know him and trust him. He's bright and has integrity. Again, I don't if he's more electable than Redford.

Yeah_Baby · 04-23-2012, 03:17 PM

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I don't know if he enhance the PCs' chances and I don't think he'd be a popular choice on this site, but I think this province would be better run if Doug Horner had won the leadership. I know him and trust him. He's bright and has integrity. Again, I don't if he's more electable than Redford.

Calgary probably would have just gone even deeper into Wildrose Green with another Edmonton area PC Leader.

Honestly Horner, Mar, Redford, it doesn't matter. The PCs were going to saddled with massive baggage anyways.

Rerun · 04-23-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But isn't Redford trying to change "The Old PC Way"? I find it weird people blame it all on her like somehow she's been the Premier tha last 40 years. Change doesn't happen overnight, it does take time to get rid of the old way and bring in the new way.

Also no disrespect to Danielle Smith but Redford's resume blows hers away. Like its not even close who has better credentials for the job.

The figurehead may have changed but diseased, cancerous body still lives on.

Knalus · 04-23-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

What I love is a poll I posted yesterday shows 2/3 people are in favor of Redford's 2 biggest pledges (more schools, more care clinics), and only 44% are in favor of DaniBucks. It's like most people like the PC ideas, they just don't like the MLAs themselves. If Redford was running with a totally clean slate of candidates this election might be a rout.

Isn't that the biggest problem with the Wildrose though? Yet you are willing to dream of a world where this would be a good thing for the PC's, and a bad thing for the Wildrose?

Vote Liberal then. I'm fine with that.