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Old 07-02-2025, 11:08 AM   #3481
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All I know at this point is that if Royle and/or Sec break an Andersson trade in here the most common & immediate responses will be something along the lines of "What about Kadri? Are we trading Kadri? Have you heard anything on Kadri? I think they should move Kadri"
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:10 AM   #3482
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Feels like the Flames were trying to get a young LD, and went back to Hanley after missing on Hague and Miller.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:14 AM   #3483
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Dreger just claimed that Flames were the frontrunners for K'Andre Miller until Carolina threatened to offer sheet him, forcing NYR to focus on sending him there.
Dregs also insinuated the Kings offer to the Flames was primarily picks based, said “no players “
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:15 AM   #3484
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I think the Flames land Byram. And then they're going to move Razz tooo....( Picks a name out of a hat) Colorado, for Necas because Ehlers will sign there.
Raz for Necas, that’s interesting. Would the Flames have to add? Seems close value to me minus the age gap.

Necas seems like a flight risk but, certainly, a flipable asset if he does want to test the market/wont extend.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:16 AM   #3485
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Dregs also insinuated the Kings offer to the Flames was primarily picks based, said “no players “
So it must have been multiple first round picks if it was a “whopper” of a deal. Meg e something like 2026 1st round pick + 2027 1st round pick + 2026 2nd round pick?
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:18 AM   #3486
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So it must have been multiple first round picks if it was a “whopper” of a deal. Meg e something like 2026 1st round pick + 2027 1st round pick + 2026 2nd round pick?
Yeah with Ken Holland at the controls I could see it
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:18 AM   #3487
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FFS Dregs makes it worse...

That hurts.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:18 AM   #3488
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So it must have been multiple first round picks if it was a “whopper” of a deal. Meg e something like 2026 1st round pick + 2027 1st round pick + 2026 2nd round pick?
I love it when this forum speculates on trade offers, lol
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:20 AM   #3489
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I mean, one man's whopper is another's mcsingle so who knows. I'm less enthused now that it comes out as all picks as I had been deluding myself into thinking a decent player was in the mix.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:20 AM   #3490
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I love it when this forum speculates on trade offers, lol
In the Trade Rumours and Speculation thread, no less.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:20 AM   #3491
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Would Ras have been going back to NY?
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:22 AM   #3492
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His speculation isn’t outrageous imo
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:22 AM   #3493
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Yikes I'm scared what Conroy was offering for Miller. He's not worth what the Rangers paid, let alone the premium a Flames management must have been offering
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:29 AM   #3494
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Yikes I'm scared what Conroy was offering for Miller. He's not worth what the Rangers paid, let alone the premium a Flames management must have been offering
Whatever it was it was less than Carolina
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Yikes I'm scared what Conroy was offering for Miller. He's not worth what the Rangers paid, let alone the premium a Flames management must have been offering
Why scared? Obviously it wasn't as good as what Carolina gave them.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:32 AM   #3496
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Ehlers expected to make his decision soon (today)
Byram situation slowly unfolding, I wouldn't expect it to go too much longer.
Thank you very much for your updates. I always look forward to reading comments from you and a few other insiders on this chat.

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Old 07-02-2025, 11:34 AM   #3497
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I love it when this forum speculates on trade offers, lol
I suppose it could have been a ton of extra picks and only a single first round pick. Just thinking what would have been considered a “whopper” of an offer. 1st + 2nd + 3rd for an extended Andersson would not have been a “whopper” by pretty much any standard. They could likely get that at the TDL for Andersson as a rental. So something like these would qualify as “whoppers” to me where no players are coming back:

A) 2026 1st + 2027 1st + 2026 2nd
B) 2026 1st + 2026 2nd + 2026 3rd + 2027 2nd + 2027 3rd
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:36 AM   #3498
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I'd love to know the actual dialogue with the players.

One one hand Conroy was loyal to their season and didn't move out assets at the deadline.

But ...

He took $20M of cap space into last season
He stood pat on the acquisition side of the trade deadline
He sat out Canada Day yesterday.
He's looking to make an asset management move with Andersson.

Are they hearing "if you're in it and we don't have UFAs expiring I'll let you see it through, but I'm not adding any contracts that don't fit our future window, and we are in asset management mode"?

You hear about Kadri wanting to stay and believing in the direction, but at his age how can that be so with the evidence leaning more torwards retool/rebuild then going for it?

Even a belief in a pivot this summer after just missing the playoffs last year would bring some hope to veteran players, but then doing nothing yesterday and clearly moving Andersson means a step back.
if Ras is replaced by Byram without giving up too much (pipe dream) then maybe the players aren't too concerned.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:39 AM   #3499
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Raz for Necas, that’s interesting. Would the Flames have to add? Seems close value to me minus the age gap.

Necas seems like a flight risk but, certainly, a flipable asset if he does want to test the market/wont extend.
I try to build my trades on the lower end so I'd say 1 for 1, Necas for Andersson. Both teams take the risk of no extension while both players make sense for each teams vacancies.

There's an opportunity in Calgary for Necas to absolutely eran a top 6 center role . And if he doesn't and doesn't like the situation, he's just a deadline flip.

It is a trade though contingent on other dominoes falling . Flames landing Byram and Ehlers signing in Colorado.
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Old 07-02-2025, 11:39 AM   #3500
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Devils have traded Shane Bowers to the Sharks for Thomas Bordeleau
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