Star Trek General Discussion

[timun]

Originally Posted by Ped

Felicity to Alias to Lost to Star Trek

Originally Posted by KTrain

He only directed 2, 2 and 5 episodes of those three shows.

He has potential though.

Super 8 is an awesome movie but he also had Speilberg guiding that production.

He created and produced Felicity, Alias and Lost.

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by timun

He created and produced Felicity, Alias and Lost.

Oh I know and he seems to be great at original productions. Fringe is freaking awesome.

I just think he got starry eyed or lost in nostalgia when handed the reigns of Trek and Wars.

Though I liked his Star Trek movies and Force Awakens.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Locke

Good Lord! Who was this Game made for and are we sure we want to acknowledge that they exist?

I was getting a lot of them right...

[timun]

Originally Posted by Locke

Its kind of made me debate a TNG re-watch but...that might initiate a Divorce.

"Babe... I've gotta do a TNG rewatch..."

"Why?!? "































"He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia, and 'round the Antares Maelstrom, and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!"

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by timun

"
"Why?!? "

The cha'dich will be silent!

[SutterBrother]

"He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia, and 'round the Antares Maelstrom, and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!"

My then 8 year old son and I visited a local museum during the pandemic that had a Star Trek exhibition. It had the original TOS captain's chair and the original Gorn suit.

I realized on the drive home that my son was probably one of only a handful of people who had ever seen the Gorn suit in real life BEFORE seeing it on screen. The people who made it, the people who shot the episode, and I suppose anyone who attended a Star Trek exhibition without ever watching Star Trek.

Anyway - we started watching TOS. Its problematic, hilarious, and awesome to watch it with a modern kid. He agrees that Kirks' philosophy is to either punch or kiss the alien (sometimes both), and Scottie's is to drink them under the table.

4 TOS episodes left, and we're on to the animated series (which I've never watched). Then it's just a question of how long to wait for KAHHHHHHHHNNNN and the full re-view of TNG.

Oh and Star Trek Prodigy is perfect for ages 7-10.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

My then 8 year old son and I visited a local museum during the pandemic that had a Star Trek exhibition. It had the original TOS captain's chair and the original Gorn suit.

I realized on the drive home that my son was probably one of only a handful of people who had ever seen the Gorn suit in real life BEFORE seeing it on screen. The people who made it, the people who shot the episode, and I suppose anyone who attended a Star Trek exhibition without ever watching Star Trek.

Anyway - we started watching TOS. Its problematic, hilarious, and awesome to watch it with a modern kid. He agrees that Kirks' philosophy is to either punch or kiss the alien (sometimes both), and Scottie's is to drink them under the table.

4 TOS episodes left, and we're on to the animated series (which I've never watched). Then it's just a question of how long to wait for KAHHHHHHHHNNNN and the full re-view of TNG.

Oh and Star Trek Prodigy is perfect for ages 7-10.

I love this.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

My then 8 year old son and I visited a local museum during the pandemic that had a Star Trek exhibition. It had the original TOS captain's chair and the original Gorn suit.

I realized on the drive home that my son was probably one of only a handful of people who had ever seen the Gorn suit in real life BEFORE seeing it on screen. The people who made it, the people who shot the episode, and I suppose anyone who attended a Star Trek exhibition without ever watching Star Trek.

Anyway - we started watching TOS. Its problematic, hilarious, and awesome to watch it with a modern kid. He agrees that Kirks' philosophy is to either punch or kiss the alien (sometimes both), and Scottie's is to drink them under the table.

4 TOS episodes left, and we're on to the animated series (which I've never watched). Then it's just a question of how long to wait for KAHHHHHHHHNNNN and the full re-view of TNG.

Oh and Star Trek Prodigy is perfect for ages 7-10.

This is fantastic. You're a lucky dad.

What museum if I might ask?

And...buckle up for the Animated Series. Its...kind of all over the place.

[Ped]

NOthing tops Kirk riding a little person like a horse in TOS in terms of bizarreness. Nothing.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ped

NOthing tops Kirk riding a little person like a horse in TOS in terms of bizarreness. Nothing.

Could you imagine trying to get away with that on TV these days? The public would be at the Studio's doors with torches and pitchforks.

[Locke]

Calgary needs a Star Trek museum. We should get all of us in this thread together and picket at City Hall with signs.

And we should pick a day when all of the anti-vaxxers are having a rally and then just get in front of them so all the news sees are our Star Trek Museum signs and just assumes we have a much bigger crowd.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is fantastic. You're a lucky dad.

What museum if I might ask?

And...buckle up for the Animated Series. Its...kind of all over the place.

Skirball Cultural Center
https://www.skirball.org/museum/star...ing-new-worlds

Yeah - I'm just stoked because it's some of the TOS actors voicing everything and I finally have someone to bother watching it with!

I'm a TNG guy so that's what I'm really looking forward to in his tween years. I watched a bunch of it with the wife, but it was just the "highlight" episodes. She wasn't really into it until "Measure of a Man" when she turned to me afterwards and said it was one of the greatest TV episodes she'd ever seen.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Skirball Cultural Center
https://www.skirball.org/museum/star...ing-new-worlds

Yeah - I'm just stoked because it's some of the TOS actors voicing everything and I finally have someone to bother watching it with!

I'm a TNG guy so that's what I'm really looking forward to in his tween years. I watched a bunch of it with the wife, but it was just the "highlight" episodes. She wasn't really into it until "Measure of a Man" when she turned to me afterwards and said it was one of the greatest TV episodes she'd ever seen.

Very cool! Yeah...if I was 'Bezos Rich' I'd buy that 'Noah's Ark' museum but on the inside turn it into a Star Trek museum and have raptors chasing tribbles around in the corridors while a dude dressed as Jesus in a Starfleet uniform just runs around lurking about the place.

It'd be a blast.

"How historically accurate is this really?"

Uhhh....its debatable.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Skirball Cultural Center
https://www.skirball.org/museum/star...ing-new-worlds

Yeah - I'm just stoked because it's some of the TOS actors voicing everything and I finally have someone to bother watching it with!

I'm a TNG guy so that's what I'm really looking forward to in his tween years. I watched a bunch of it with the wife, but it was just the "highlight" episodes. She wasn't really into it until "Measure of a Man" when she turned to me afterwards and said it was one of the greatest TV episodes she'd ever seen.

Obviously 'Measure of a Man' is a treasure, the real trick with TNG and I learned this with my kids, is somehow keeping them interested past season 2. If they can tough those out and even season 3 was a little rocky...but if you can keep them past those you'll have them!

I had to make trade-offs and concessions constantly. An episode of TNG cost me a couple episodes of Avatar (which was good) or a couple episodes of Spongebob (which made me want to blow my brains out).

Until we got into the meat of season 3 where it became more..."no, no, lets watch another one!"

And then the 'quid pro quo' ended...

[timun]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

4 TOS episodes left, and we're on to the animated series (which I've never watched). Then it's just a question of how long to wait for KAHHHHHHHHNNNN and the full re-view of TNG.

Wait for what? I'm totally going to be arrogantly presumptive and tell you how to parent: if your kid is 10ish now, there's nothing to wait for.


Other than maybe letting some time pass so that that reveal of Ricardo Montalban's face hits a little harder...

"You still remember, Admiral? I cannot help but be touched. I, of course, remember you."

[Locke]

"I like this Captain's chair...rich, Corinthian leather..."

[timun]

Joachim: "Da Enterprise! Da Enterprise!"

[CaptainCrunch]

I have to say that Khan is one of the greatest science fiction villains of all times and one of the most misunderstood.

Sadly Nu Trek made the mistake of trying to reboot him, While BC is a great actor, nobody can ever surpass Mr Roarke as Khan.

If you watch Space Seed and then Star Trek 2, I think that represents to me the best that Star Trek has to offer. as well as Undiscovered Country.

He wasn't a simple mustache twirling villain. He was a man designed to end the suffering on a world that was falling apart, then saw his empire fall apart and his people betray him. Then when he was promised a new life, Kirk merely forgot about him after promising to check in and Khan simply lost everything and very much became a creature of vengeance and obsession. You could almost argue that he was the mirror image of Kirk.

There are just so many iconic Khan quotes and episode related quotes

KIRK: This Khan is not what I expected of a twentieth century man.
SPOCK: I note he's making considerable use of our technical library.
KIRK: Common courtesy, Mister Spock. He'll spend the rest of his days in our time. It's only decent to help him catch up. Would you estimate him to be a product of selective breeding?
SPOCK: There is that possibility, Captain. His age would be correct. In 1993, a group of these young supermen did seize power simultaneously in over forty nations.
KIRK: Well, they were hardly supermen. They were aggressive, arrogant. They began to battle among themselves.
SPOCK: Because the scientists overlooked one fact. Superior ability breeds superior ambition.
KIRK: Interesting, if true. They created a group of Alexanders, Napoleons.
SPOCK: I have collected some names and made some counts. By my estimate, there were some eighty or ninety of these young supermen unaccounted for when they were finally defeated.
KIRK: That fact isn't in the history texts.
SPOCK: Would you reveal to war-weary populations that some eighty Napoleons might still be alive?

.

(After dinner, as liqueurs are being served.)
KIRK: Forgive my curiosity, Mister Khan, but my officers are anxious to know more about your extraordinary journey.
SPOCK: And how you managed to keep it out of the history books.
KHAN: Adventure, Captain. Adventure. There was little else left on Earth.
SPOCK: There was the war to end tyranny. Many considered that a noble effort.
KHAN: Tyranny, sir? Or an attempt to unify humanity?
SPOCK: Unify, sir? Like a team of animals under one whip?
KHAN: I know something of those years. Remember, it was a time of great dreams, of great aspiration.
SPOCK: Under dozens of petty dictatorships.
KHAN: One man would have ruled eventually. As Rome under Caesar. Think of its accomplishments.
SPOCK: Then your sympathies were with
KHAN: You are an excellent tactician, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness.
KIRK: You have a tendency to express ideas in military terms, Mister Khan. This is a social occasion.
KHAN: It has been said that social occasions are only warfare concealed. Many prefer it more honest, more open.
KIRK: You fled. Why? Were you afraid?
KHAN: I've never been afraid.
KIRK: But you left at the very time mankind needed courage.
KHAN: We offered the world order!
KIRK: We?
KHAN: Excellent. Excellent. But if you will excuse me, gentlemen and ladies, I grow fatigued again. With your permission, Captain, I will return to my quarters.
(Kirk stands, and Khan leaves.)

(A large picture of their guest in on a screen)
KIRK: Name, Khan, as we know him today. (Spock changes the picture) Name, Khan Noonien Singh.
SPOCK: From 1992 through 1996, absolute ruler of more than a quarter of your world. From Asia through the Middle East.
MCCOY: The last of the tyrants to be overthrown.
SCOTT: I must confess, gentlemen. I've always held a sneaking admiration for this one.
KIRK: He was the best of the tyrants and the most dangerous. They were supermen, in a sense. Stronger, braver, certainly more ambitious, more daring.
SPOCK: Gentlemen, this romanticism about a ruthless dictator is
KIRK: Mister Spock, we humans have a streak of barbarism in us. Appalling, but there, nevertheless.
SCOTT: There were no massacres under his rule.
SPOCK: And as little freedom.
MCCOY: No wars until he was attacked.
SPOCK: Gentlemen.
KIRK: Mister Spock, you misunderstand us. We can be against him and admire him all at the same time.
SPOCK: Illogical.
KIRK: Totally. This is the Captain. Put a twenty four hour security on Mister Khan's quarters, effective immediately.

(The senior staff are in dress uniform again.)
UHURA: Record tapes engaged and ready, Captain.
KIRK: This hearing is now in session. Under the authority vested in me by Starfleet Command, I declare all charges and specifications in this matter have been dropped.
MCCOY: Jim. Agreed you have the authority
KIRK: Mister Spock, our heading takes us near the Ceti Alpha star system.
SPOCK: Quite correct, Captain. Planet number five there is habitable, although a bit savage, somewhat inhospitable.
KIRK: But no more than Australia's Botany Bay colony was at the beginning. Those men went on to tame a continent, Mister Khan. Can you tame a world?
KHAN: Have you ever read Milton, Captain?
KIRK: Yes. I understand. Lieutenant Marla McGivers. Given a choice of court martial or accompanying them there.
KHAN: (gazing into her eyes) It will be difficult. A struggle at first even to stay alive, to find food.
MARLA: I'll go with him, sir.
KHAN: A superior woman. I will take her. And I've gotten something else I wanted. A world to win, an empire to build.
KIRK: This hearing is closed.
(Khan and McGivers are escorted out.)
SCOTT: It's a shame for a good Scotsman to admit it, but I'm not up on Milton.
KIRK: The statement Lucifer made when he fell into the pit. 'It is better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.'
SPOCK: It would be interesting, Captain, to return to that world in a hundred years and to learn what crop has sprung from the seed you planted today.
KIRK: Yes, Mister Spock, it would indeed.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Locke

Calgary needs a Star Trek museum. We should get all of us in this thread together and picket at City Hall with signs.

And we should pick a day when all of the anti-vaxxers are having a rally and then just get in front of them so all the news sees are our Star Trek Museum signs and just assumes we have a much bigger crowd.

We can probably find cheaper land in Vulcan tbh.
We can have a theme hotel too.

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

We can probably find cheaper land in Vulcan tbh.
We can have a theme hotel too.

Enh, just stick in main floor of a hotel.

Star Trek: The Experience at the Hampton Inn & Suites by Hilton Calgary-Airport