Yeah, and its easy to understand why many people are so very upset over Trump winning. One of the nicer things I could say is he's a polarizing figure.
Since the election some thoughtful writings have come out explaining why Trump won: The conclusion being, its because he is anti-establishment. The democrats hate him. His own party hates him. He is not part of the political class and many people are craving someone to mix things up. Remember Ross Perot?
But now like horses to the trough, many Republicans now come to feed. "Maybe Trump isn't so bad". So when people get mad he might make Romney SoS, that's understandable. If Romney had any class he'd refuse the position if it were offered.
it's hard not to be a little worried for someone like Chuck Jones; criticize Trump, get put in his public cross hairs and then be subject to the kind of abuse that no one deserves.
I mean we have discussions about someone who says/does something and someone videos it, people figure out who it is, and then the person gets abuse at their home and work far in excess of what they did.
It's crazy.
EDIT: Too slow, but yeah see he's already getting death threats.
Its fascinating to see how quickly it's all ramped up. This anger was obviously festering for a long time. It really makes me think this shinguard is going to get real, real fast.
I'm perhaps not aware of why photon and KevanGuy are concerned about the union leader, he criticized Trump, got criticized back. How can this be a problem?
There's nothing inherently wrong with the union tweet. He's said the leader has done a poor job, I'm not sure how someone could read that and immediately declare it wrong, unless they just hate Trump. Trump didn't back it up, sure, but then again the union guy doesn't do any better.
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Even if there isn't anything wrong with the tweet, my feelings are why bother? What's the point of stirring up this controvers? It's hard for me to relate to someone that is so seemingly unfocused on taking the most important job in the world. And that make me nervous, and in turn, question these sorts of things/tweets.
I don't get the criticism on the Trump hiring stuff, what's he supposed to do get people from completely outside the political arena? If he did that the left would lose their #### saying he is hiring people with no experience. Let's be honest no matter what Trump does the usual suspects in the media etc. will find something wrong. On Romney specifically if Trump shunned him then guess what he's be criticized for holding a grudge and being vindictive.
The criticisms of Trump on the Carrier deal is pathetic at least Trump did something unlike Obama who waved his hands and said can't do anything nope no magic wand nothing anyone can do. Trump made Obama look like a complete idiot.
I don't know much about Jimmy Dore except I've seen him on TYT which is Trump hate central. And even Dore is saying good things about Trump.
I'm perhaps not aware of why photon and KevanGuy are concerned about the union leader, he criticized Trump, got criticized back. How can this be a problem?
If people have to start worrying about thier own safety because Trump runs his mouth like this than that is scary. I honestly don't know how you can't see that? Or don't think it's an issue?
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If people have to start worrying about thier own safety because Trump runs his mouth like this than that is scary. I honestly don't know how you can't see that? Or don't think it's an issue?
I can't find any news article about this guy's safety becoming in issue. Please share one.
I can't find any news article about this guy's safety becoming in issue. Please share one.
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Half an hour after Trump tweeted about Jones on Wednesday, the union leader's phone began to ring and kept ringing, he said. One voice asked: What kind of car do you drive? Another said: We’re coming for you.
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He wasn’t sure how these people found his number.
"Nothing that says they’re gonna kill me, but, you know, you better keep your eye on your kids," Jones said later on MSNBC. "We know what car you drive. Things along those lines."
You know Republicans are majority working class and, in millions of millions of cases, poor? But yet anything bad in the world, anything offensive in the world, is somehow tied to Trump or Republicans.
And when you think about it...it's really amazing that the poor support the Republicans and demean 'liberal' programs that are in their interests.
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I shouldn't really get into this stuff because I'm not interested in arguing. Phos post like 5 up had some examples with Megyn Kelly. I just cant imagine how anyone can defend this guy.
"I’ve been doing this job for 30 years, and I’ve heard everything from people who want to burn my house down or shoot me," he added. "So I take it with a grain of salt and I don’t put a lot of faith in that, and I’m not concerned about it and I’m not getting anybody involved. I can deal with people that make stupid statements and move on."
Speaks for itself.
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Its not about defending Trump. Its more about calming the hysteria against him.
I'm not in for a debate on this either as I even posted earlier I'd have voted for Clinton, if I had to vote.
Those calls the union leader got, that should not happen. I don't think Trump can be blamed for those calls. Those people should be located and spoken to by the authorities.
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with the union tweet. He's said the leader has done a poor job, I'm not sure how someone could read that and immediately declare it wrong, unless they just hate Trump. Trump didn't back it up, sure, but then again the union guy doesn't do any better.
Look at that, right in your own paragraph there, you contradict yourself with the bolded. That's what is inherently wrong: you shouldn't call people out with zero backup.
If I said "Delgar is a dangerous sexual deviant who lusts after elderly ginger blowhards" with no evidence (other than my fertile imagination), how would you feel about that? After all, the real effect of random internet guy insulting another random internet guy is surely less than the president-elect calling someone incompetent at their job. Are you good with that, then? Can I come to your workplace and shout it out for all to enjoy?
There's a huge difference between "telling it like it is" and "telling it to make myself look good and others bad." You're not admiring his honesty, you're admiring his willingness to act out his emotions with shameless impunity, like a child does. He's the evil Peter Pan, choosing to never grow up, and the other children love it.
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Its not about defending Trump. Its more about calming the hysteria against him.
I'm not in for a debate on this either as I even posted earlier I'd have voted for Clinton, if I had to vote.
Those calls the union leader got, that should not happen. I don't think Trump can be blamed for those calls. Those people should be located and spoken to by the authorities.
Trump has a mob he feeds, refuses to intervene, and attacks someone knowingly. He is responsible for some of it
If I said "Delgar is a dangerous sexual deviant who lusts after elderly ginger blowhards" with no evidence (other than my fertile imagination), how would you feel about that?
Well, its true. So I can't really complain.
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There's a huge difference between "telling it like it is" and "telling it to make myself look good and others bad." You're not admiring his honesty, you're admiring his willingness to act out his emotions with shameless impunity, like a child does. He's the evil Peter Pan, choosing to never grow up, and the other children love it.
So to try and prove a point you toss around infantile insults.
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Yeah. He's had it happen before so it's ok
Favourite tactic of the left, pretend to be ignorant. Maybe just maybe that a person in his position is going to be a target no matter what people say or don't. Nope can't be that Trump is an evil monster that incites violence just for being him. I bet you actually believe this.
Look at that, right in your own paragraph there, you contradict yourself with the bolded. That's what is inherently wrong: you shouldn't call people out with zero backup.
And while i admire the analogy and conceded to it, I don't think you understand what inherently means. Neither do those who thanked the post. They just liked the way it read.
I edit this to say: inherently means you can find its false in its own words, in this context. Tweets like that one are opinion not facts because there's no room to back an argument.
And I now take it that those who thanked the post are actually more about the last paragraph, calling Trump the evil Peter Pan. Perhaps fair comment but, over the top. Funny though.
I don't get the criticism on the Trump hiring stuff, what's he supposed to do get people from completely outside the political arena?
The "outsider" and "drain the swamp" angle was the biggest part of his campaign and the reason a lot of people voted for him.
When you vote for a con man and get conned, you have nobody to blame but yourself, but this is exactly the opposite of what he said he was going to do.
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The criticisms of Trump on the Carrier deal is pathetic at least Trump did something unlike Obama who waved his hands and said can't do anything nope no magic wand nothing anyone can do. Trump made Obama look like a complete idiot.
Tax dollars kept those jobs in Indiana. Period. It wasn't Trump's magical ability to make deals and his smooth talk that kept them there.
As for making Obama look like an idiot, the longer Trump is in the White House, the smarter Obama will look. Everyone is going to realize that soon enough.
You know Republicans are majority working class and, in millions of millions of cases, poor? But yet anything bad in the world, anything offensive in the world, is somehow tied to Trump or Republicans.
