Shields make no sense. Like why do they deplete. Just keep generating them.
Starfleet should have just stolen the energy absorbing tech of the Boobytrap episode. Then any hits they take, they can just absorb to make more shields. But no, its a 1000 year old archeological relic and archeology loving Picard decides to just blow it up at the end with torpedoes.
Star Trek makes no sense outside of my childhood and I can keep going on forever here.
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Shields make no sense. Like why do they deplete. Just keep generating them.
You want to talk sense? How about cloaking devices?
Like...how does that nonsense work? And you can get around it because ships have exhaust pipes?
Why?
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Starfleet should have just stolen the energy absorbing tech of the Boobytrap episode. Then any hits they take, they can just absorb to make more shields. But no, its a 1000 year old archeological relic and archeology loving Picard decides to just blow it up at the end with torpedoes.
Star Trek makes no sense outside of my childhood and I can keep going on forever here.
This is the beauty of being a Star Trek fan. We can literally debate this nonsense forever.
I think I'd have been a great Star Trek writer. You can essentially do whatever you want. It would have been so much fun!
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Beyond just generating shields, I don't understand why the in universe explanation of a warp bubble wouldn't render weapons basically useless against anything that could generate one. You're being pushed outside of normal space time, how would a weapon in space time or a separate warp bubble even cross your path geometrically?
Alas, we are talking about science fiction and it's all just hokem. At least star trek tries to explain it with "science" rather than just giving it up to the force and midicholrians or whatever
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Beyond just generating shields, I don't understand why the in universe explanation of a warp bubble wouldn't render weapons basically useless against anything that could generate one. You're being pushed outside of normal space time, how would a weapon in space time or a separate warp bubble even cross your path geometrically?
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Warp bubbles don't take you out of normal space time (that's some hyper space bull****). Warp bubbles contract the space ahead of the ship, and expand the space behind it. The ship stays "Still" within the warp bubble, and the space they are in moves, so they aren't technically moving faster than light. But they are still in "normal space". They can run into stuff, and stuff can run into them. So weapons would still work.
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Warp bubbles don't take you out of normal space time (that's some hyper space bull****). Warp bubbles contract the space ahead of the ship, and expand the space behind it. The ship stays "Still" within the warp bubble, and the space they are in moves, so they aren't technically moving faster than light. But they are still in "normal space". They can run into stuff, and stuff can run into them. So weapons would still work.
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But- I disagree. That is how it has been posited several times in conversation in the series, and how Alcubierre theorized it could work irl, but the explanation given in TNG: Remember Me and then later depicted in several episodes of Voy and other series, indicates that the warp field creates a bubble of separate space time which then enables the mentioned compressing of spacetime in front of the vessel.
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It creates a self enclosed geometry of space time. If so, how could anything in regular space time (phasers, torpedoes, any matter) intersect it?
Subspace weapons maybe but IIRC those are banned by treaty.
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First photo failed so here are some others:
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