11-08-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Winners of the
Not sure why teams need a month for a bowl game, they play every week (more or less) during the regular season. It works in Division 2 or FBS or whatever they call it anymore. Those schools seem to do just fine with it.
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The reason there is a month between the end of the regular season the bowls is exams. They don't want kids traveling or having to worry about a football game during exams.
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11-08-2008, 10:04 AM
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#322
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Fearmongerer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cSpooge
The reason there is a month between the end of the regular season the bowls is exams. They don't want kids traveling or having to worry about a football game during exams.
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So do it in parts....play the quarters one week....exams the following week....the semis the week after that. Schools are out almost a month for christmas break, and they dont HAVE to finish by Jan 1 as evidenced by the bowl schedule this year. Bowls start Dec 20th and end Jan 8th. Essentially 3 weeks worth of time.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...story/10823453
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11-08-2008, 04:46 PM
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#323
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Fearmongerer
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LSU playing Bama tough....tied late.
And Penn St. goes down to Iowa. Yikes. Joe Pa's NC aspirations fizzle out.
Ohio St demolished NW today as well. The Big 11 is a mess now...could end up a 3 way tie for first.
And Georgia barely beat kentucky.
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11-08-2008, 05:52 PM
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#324
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massive hurdle for Bama, just have to beat Miss St. & Auburn, and you know auburn is going to show up for that one.
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Originally Posted by transplant99
And Georgia barely beat kentucky.
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kentucky is better than their record, decent team.
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11-08-2008, 05:55 PM
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#325
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The SEC has to be hoping that Florida beats Bama in the championship game.
If Bama goes up against the Big 12 champ they get whipped and the SEC loses some of its "luster" with the media and fans. They just don't have the offense to hang with the top teams in the nation.
Once again Georgia looks very average against a mediocre team, but SEC teams will still get huge credit for beating them as media will treat them as a top team.
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11-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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#326
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Montana travels VERY well to their playoff games, and championship games. And this is out of a town of 60,000 people. The playoff system in 1-AA (or whatever you want to call it now) is a gargantuan success and in general you are dealing with schools and fans who have less of an ability to follow the teams than the big time schools do.
The travel issue is a joke.
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That's Montana... how many fans is very well? 10000? And ho far do they go? I'm not sure anyone can go to 3 playoff games spread across the country with the ticket prices that thse bowl games cost.
As transplant said it could be done if the games are every other week but then you might lose some momentum. We always bitch about that bye week before the Super Bowl.
You know what will end up happening, there will be a playoff and then we'll have a Utah/BYU final and nobody will watch. (Like Phillies/Rays)
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11-08-2008, 07:36 PM
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#327
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A great finish to that Alabama game, winning me $350! I played the spread that was 3.5 I think....close!
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11-08-2008, 08:22 PM
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#328
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Texas Tech is walking through the OKLA ST defense like they're not there.
Up 35-20 in the 3rd quarter and driving again.
6 possessions
Fumble
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11-08-2008, 08:29 PM
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#329
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Texas Tech is walking through the OKLA ST defense like they're not there.
Up 35-20 in the 3rd quarter and driving again.
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you know...TT looks like a video game come to life. They are unreal.
i do have to wonder though....does ANYONE in the Big 12 play defense? I mean OK ST was supposed to be one that did, and they are not that good.
Would love to see a TT team play a Florida or USC level defense and see what happens.
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11-08-2008, 08:49 PM
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#330
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Ohhh, good. And I thought this was just a 8 team playoff. Can you help me understand how you will incorporate all 26 bowls game to be relevant to a NC picture. If you need, embed a excel diagram or something because this will be fun to explain I'm sure.
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I missed this beauty earlier...so let me take a stab at it now. I will go slow...I promise.
As of right now, in this perfect BCS system you support blindly....only the BCS games have ANY bearing on the NC game...in fact, only ONE does. What in the hell are you railing on about 26 of them about? those irrelevant bowl games like the Liberty bowl, the toilet bowl, the 10-pin bowl...they all still occur with their 5 and 6 loss teams. Nothing changes in a playoff format for those games, as only the top 8 teams get in. I thought you had wrapped your head around that by now? I guess not.
not sure how else to explain it to your superior O&G/Football genius mind....but here is just one scenario as i have posted twice before and now a third time.
Winners of the
Big 12
Big11
SEC
ACC
PAC 10
Big East ( though thats getting debateable)
2 at large bids for the next best 2 teams...whether they come from above conferences or a mid-major.
8 teams/4 games one weekend(Sugar, Cotton,Orange, Fiesta)...then 4 teams/2 games the next weekend (Rose, Tostitos Bowls), Then the BCS game as the grand daddy. (or any variation there of)
Still need a spreadsheet to figure it out?
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11-08-2008, 08:53 PM
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#331
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
So do it in parts....play the quarters one week....exams the following week....the semis the week after that. Schools are out almost a month for christmas break, and they dont HAVE to finish by Jan 1 as evidenced by the bowl schedule this year. Bowls start Dec 20th and end Jan 8th. Essentially 3 weeks worth of time.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...story/10823453
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oh I completely agree, I was just pointing out the "justification" the schools give for the break.
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11-08-2008, 10:39 PM
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#332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I missed this beauty earlier...so let me take a stab at it now. I will go slow...I promise.
As of right now, in this perfect BCS system you support blindly....only the BCS games have ANY bearing on the NC game...in fact, only ONE does. What in the hell are you railing on about 26 of them about? those irrelevant bowl games like the Liberty bowl, the toilet bowl, the 10-pin bowl...they all still occur with their 5 and 6 loss teams. Nothing changes in a playoff format for those games, as only the top 8 teams get in. I thought you had wrapped your head around that by now? I guess not.
not sure how else to explain it to your superior O&G/Football genius mind....but here is just one scenario as i have posted twice before and now a third time.
Winners of the
Big 12
Big11
SEC
ACC
PAC 10
Big East ( though thats getting debateable)
2 at large bids for the next best 2 teams...whether they come from above conferences or a mid-major.
8 teams/4 games one weekend(Sugar, Cotton,Orange, Fiesta)...then 4 teams/2 games the next weekend (Rose, Tostitos Bowls), Then the BCS game as the grand daddy. (or any variation there of)
Still need a spreadsheet to figure it out?
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You said all the bowls would be involved though before ... so as I thought, you kill off about 18 bowl games. Thanks for the clarificaiton.
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11-08-2008, 10:49 PM
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#333
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WOW, Tech/OK in two weeks is going to be a beast of a game. can't wait, Tech is getting strong as they plough through this tough stretch at the end of their sched. great stuff, super all around team effort from the raiders tonight.
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11-09-2008, 12:22 PM
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#334
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the AP poll for the week. The big east and the ACC...WOW, bad.
1. Alabama (44) 10-0 1,604
2. Texas Tech (21) 10-0 1,574
3. Florida 8-1 1,467
4. Texas 9-1 1,437
5. Oklahoma 9-1 1,375
6. USC 8-1 1,311
7. Penn State 9-1 1,161
8. Utah 10-0 1,157
9. Boise State 9-0 1,110
10. Ohio State 8-2 1,009
11. Oklahoma State 8-2 963
12. Missouri 8-2 913
13. Georgia 8-2 880
14. Ball State 9-0 677
15. TCU 9-2 623
16. Brigham Young 9-1 602
17. North Carolina 7-2 597
18. Michigan State 9-2 584
19. LSU 6-3 552
20. Florida State 7-2 380
21. Pittsburgh 7-2 318
22. Cincinnati 7-2 269
23. Oregon State 6-3 124
24. South Carolina 7-3 117
25. Tulsa 8-1 84
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11-09-2008, 05:53 PM
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#335
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...and the BCS shakedown.
1. Alabama 10-0
2. Texas Tech 10-0
3. Texas 9-1
4. Florida 8-1
5. Oklahoma 9-1
6. USC 8-1
7. Utah 10-0
8. Penn State 9-1
9. Boise State 9-0
10. Georgia 8-2
11. Ohio State 8-2
12. Missouri 8-2
Boise praying for BYU to beat Utah.
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11-09-2008, 06:47 PM
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#336
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Looks like things are going to come down to the SEC title game. Problem is, if Florida gets in that game and wins, how do you put them ahead of a 1 loss Texas team that only lost to Tech? At the same time, nobody wants to see a Texas vs. Texas Tech rematch for the BCS.
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11-10-2008, 11:20 AM
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#337
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At the same time, nobody wants to see a Texas vs. Texas Tech rematch for the BCS.
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I think if Tech wins out....the BCS game will be Florida/Tech.
IF Tech loses in Norman in 2 weeks....then things get just goofy. Should this occur, its VERY likely that Tech doesnt even get a BCS game. Imagine that. The rules are that you canot have more than 2 teams from any one conference. The common thought process among the BCS experts on ESPN are that because OK beats the sitting #1, they move ahead of Tech, but because Texas is already placed a ahead of OK, that Tech plummets to the #7 spot (5 spots down which is what they jumped when they beat Texas) . Leaving the Raiders on the outside looking in because of the conference rule.
Its a wonderful system...no question about it.
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11-10-2008, 11:40 AM
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#338
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I think if Tech wins out....the BCS game will be Florida/Tech.
IF Tech loses in Norman in 2 weeks....then things get just goofy. Should this occur, its VERY likely that Tech doesnt even get a BCS game. Imagine that. The rules are that you canot have more than 2 teams from any one conference. The common thought process among the BCS experts on ESPN are that because OK beats the sitting #1, they move ahead of Tech, but because Texas is already placed a ahead of OK, that Tech plummets to the #7 spot (5 spots down which is what they jumped when they beat Texas) . Leaving the Raiders on the outside looking in because of the conference rule.
Its a wonderful system...no question about it.
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I wonder what the tiebreaker in the Big 12 would be since all the teams would have 1 loss and they each beat each other.
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11-10-2008, 11:45 AM
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#339
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NOT breaking news
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I think if Tech wins out....the BCS game will be Florida/Tech.
IF Tech loses in Norman in 2 weeks....then things get just goofy. Should this occur, its VERY likely that Tech doesnt even get a BCS game. Imagine that. The rules are that you canot have more than 2 teams from any one conference. The common thought process among the BCS experts on ESPN are that because OK beats the sitting #1, they move ahead of Tech, but because Texas is already placed a ahead of OK, that Tech plummets to the #7 spot (5 spots down which is what they jumped when they beat Texas) . Leaving the Raiders on the outside looking in because of the conference rule.
Its a wonderful system...no question about it.
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So if it was a playoff would you allow more than 2 teams from one conference into the quarterfinals?
If yes, the little team will be screwed again.
If no, then a team like Texas Tech missed out.
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11-10-2008, 12:21 PM
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#340
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So if it was a playoff would you allow more than 2 teams from one conference into the quarterfinals?
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The winner of the BCS conferences and the next 2 best teams...regardless of where they play. Of course the Big 12 will likely sort itself out between the games left and the conference championship game.
The fly in that ointment right now is the Big East as none of them deserve a shot this year....and there is no question that they will be taking a spot from one of Tech/texas/Oklahoma. Thats with the current system as well as a proposed system that would include the top 8.
truth is that the Big east just doesnt belong with the other conferences and hasnt for a while, sans a couple good W Va teams and cinderella USF last year.
Last edited by transplant99; 11-10-2008 at 12:24 PM.
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