[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

It’s not randomly I started calling him Lionel Hutz, this was the response I got from him in a previous argument



He used his job as an example of having some elevated level of intelligence.

LOL - quite the opposite - you called me learning disabled and/or stupid, to which I responded saying if that was the case, I’d fooled a lot of people.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Man, if Buium was on the table, would have given them Andersson.

He was on the table for a young elite player only.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Always assumed it was spelled "gaunch" as in "launch".

Never looked into it but thanks for correcting. Now I have something interesting to talk about at my wife’s Christmas party.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

He was on the table for a young elite player only.

Yeah, not sure why this is a comparison. Age, contract and ability are all different.

If it was a 1st and Rossi maybe (though I bet people would complain Rossi was too old).

[Two Fivenagame]

Lionel Hutz. That's kinda funny

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's not comparable in the sense of the return you'd expect.

But if this was the Flames I'd almost guarantee they wouldn't have acted as quick. They would have spent the rest of the season trying to convince Hughes to stay, then maybe traded him in the offseason.

Suggestions that Hughes asked for a trade and wanted it done sooner than later.

Andersson preferred to stay here.

Timeline was never going to be the same.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's not comparable in the sense of the return you'd expect.

But if this was the Flames I'd almost guarantee they wouldn't have acted as quick. They would have spent the rest of the season trying to convince Hughes to stay, then maybe traded him in the offseason.

What player has asked for a trade and the Flames spent an offseason trying to convince that player to stay? Because it’s not Andersson.

I suppose Backlund might be the answer but that was obviously just a bad moment for backs.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The Canucks generally are pretty aggressive with trades when they decide they want to do something. But the also manifests in deals like the Lindholm one
But at the time it was similarly characterized as an aggressive and more proactive move.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They will need a lot more prospects and picks to accomplish that.

Would still rather have Wolf, Reschny, Potter, Parekh, Gridin, Honzek, Suniev, Hunter B and Coronato than Rossi, Buium, Öhgren, Cootes, Willander, Lekkarimaki.

Some of those flames guys like Suniev are not jumping out as top end prospects. Flames have the clean advantage with Wolf but everything else is comparable.

Pettersson and Hronek are better age wise than Huberdeau and Weegar. I would rather have Boeser and his deal than Sharangovich and his deal. I prefer Bahl to M.Pettersson for sure

If the Flames move Kadri and Coleman in addition to Andersson I think they will have the better asset base. I don’t see Sherwood, Kane, Myers etc bringing much value back to the Canucks.

I don’t know if I agree the Canucks are ahead of the Flames but it is debatable and it will definitely be clearer after the draft which team is set up to have the perceived better future

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

It’s not randomly I started calling him Lionel Hutz, this was the response I got from him in a previous argument



He used his job as an example of having some elevated level of intelligence.

Man, might be time to take a beat for a while. Every time I see you on FOI you’re in some mean spirited spat with someone that seems extremely silly from the outside and it looks like people are getting under your skin (which isn’t like you).

We both know you have to keep that ratio to 50/50 at worst.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Some of those flames guys like Suniev are not jumping out as top end prospects. Flames have the clean advantage with Wolf but everything else is comparable.

Pettersson and Hronek are better age wise than Huberdeau and Weegar. I would rather have Boeser and his deal than Sharangovich and his deal. I prefer Bahl to M.Pettersson for sure

If the Flames move Kadri and Coleman in addition to Andersson I think they will have the better asset base. I don’t see Sherwood, Kane, Myers etc bringing much value back to the Canucks.

I don’t know if I agree the Canucks are ahead of the Flames but it is debatable and it will definitely be clearer after the draft which team is set up to have the perceived better future

I think it’s fair to say they are in a similar situation now after the Hughes trade
We can debate around the edges but overall it’s close

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Some of those flames guys like Suniev are not jumping out as top end prospects. Flames have the clean advantage with Wolf but everything else is comparable.

Pettersson and Hronek are better age wise than Huberdeau and Weegar. I would rather have Boeser and his deal than Sharangovich and his deal. I prefer Bahl to M.Pettersson for sure

If the Flames move Kadri and Coleman in addition to Andersson I think they will have the better asset base. I don’t see Sherwood, Kane, Myers etc bringing much value back to the Canucks.

I don’t know if I agree the Canucks are ahead of the Flames but it is debatable and it will definitely be clearer after the draft which team is set up to have the perceived better future

Hronek has a full NMC compared with a NTC for Weegar that becomes a modified one July 1st, 2027 and he makes a million bucks more a year. Suspect most people would think Weegar is a better all around dman as well.

Pettersson is probably a more tradeable asset than Huberdeau but it is playing in the margins. Doubt you get much of anything for either player.

Suspect Farabee is worth more than Boeser on the market, far better defensive player and outside of one season when Boeser scored at a rate that justifies his current salary he has been a 50 pint guy for 4 of the past 5 seasons. 7.25 million for a 50 point forward who does not play defence is a lot of money. Yegor and him will end up around the same for points again this year, Boeser has 142 points over the past 3 seasons and Yegor has 102 points. Boeser makes 1.5 million more a season to get an extra 10-15 points.

My point was more the Flames already have a better prospect base than the Canucks even after the Hughes trade. That gap will only grow once the Flames move some of their assets. But I personally would not trade Calgary’s top 10-12 assets under the age of 25 for the Canucks top 10-12 assets under the age of 25. I think Calgary has a clear lead in the quality of their prospect base for sure.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The Canucks made one good trade for a guy who wanted out. Before we anoint them rebuilding geniuses perhaps see why they had to trade Quinn, who they just signed in the last two off seasons and who they acquired just last year, and what their team still looks like. I mean, in the last couple seasons they signed/extended at least 6 guys who are approaching or at 30 for long term deals.

I don’t think anyone has claimed the Canucks have been a well-managed team for the last few years. What people are lauding is the Canucks recognizing that they’ve what they’ve been doing in recent years wasn’t working, and they need to bite the bullet and change direction.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I don’t think anyone has claimed the Canucks have been a well-managed team for the last few years. What people are lauding is the Canucks recognizing that they’ve what they’ve been doing in recent years wasn’t working, and they need to bite the bullet and change direction.

The Flames did that in 2023, they are far ahead of the Canucks in that regard.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think it’s fair to say they are in a similar situation now after the Hughes trade
We can debate around the edges but overall it’s close

Agreed. Depending on what the flames do with their vets I think they can leap ahead substantially. Also are both teams picking in the top 3 or 5. That will weight heavily as well

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I don’t think anyone has claimed the Canucks have been a well-managed team for the last few years. What people are lauding is the Canucks recognizing that they’ve what they’ve been doing in recent years wasn’t working, and they need to bite the bullet and change direction.

What they recognized was that a player requested a trade. You think they made this decision for any other reason? In a rebuild Quinn is the guy you keep and build around.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's funny that one trade of a guy who wanted out in Vancouver is a rebuild, after a bunch of rentals, extensions of vets, trades for vets. But Calgary moving out 6 vets including vets with term, is not. Because one team said it (after renting it) but the other didn't.

Actions speak louder than words doesn't apply for a certain subset of people.

[eddly]

Originally Posted by troutman

In Strat-O-Matic hockey in the 80s I traded for all six Sutter brothers.

Stratomatic hockey was great! Created seasons with brothers... tracked stats etc. Good times. My best line was Thomas, Savard and Larmer.

[Roof-Daddy]

Imagine if Guerin gave up all that for 1.5 years of Hughes. Must be very confident he can get Quinn to extend in the summer.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Hronek has a full NMC compared with a NTC for Weegar that becomes a modified one July 1st, 2027 and he makes a million bucks more a year. Suspect most people would think Weegar is a better all around dman as well.

Pettersson is probably a more tradeable asset than Huberdeau but it is playing in the margins. Doubt you get much of anything for either player.

Suspect Farabee is worth more than Boeser on the market, far better defensive player and outside of one season when Boeser scored at a rate that justifies his current salary he has been a 50 pint guy for 4 of the past 5 seasons. 7.25 million for a 50 point forward who does not play defence is a lot of money. Yegor and him will end up around the same for points again this year, Boeser has 142 points over the past 3 seasons and Yegor has 102 points. Boeser makes 1.5 million more a season to get an extra 10-15 points.

My point was more the Flames already have a better prospect base than the Canucks even after the Hughes trade. That gap will only grow once the Flames move some of their assets. But I personally would not trade Calgary’s top 10-12 assets under the age of 25 for the Canucks top 10-12 assets under the age of 25. I think Calgary has a clear lead in the quality of their prospect base for sure.

Weegar is about to turn 32 and Hronek just turned 28 nearly a 4 year age difference. I think both players stay with their team through their builds. Canucks guy is more age appropriate. As for Boeser/Sharangovich 40 more points in 2.3 seasons averages out to more than 10 points a year it is pacing to be closer to 20 points more. You bring up Farabee who could be compared to Debrusk.


We can nitpick about this stuff all day but the Canucks asset base today is comparable to Calgary’s. Calgary has the best pending UFA to move.

I think Calgary has the assets to absolutely blow past the Canucks but at the same time if only one team is picking top 4 and the other is picking in the back half of the top 10 that will swing things greatly in favor of the team picking the highest at least initially.

I just really hope Calgary moves all 3 assets (and are able to get their price) and secures one of McKenna, Lawrence, or Stenberg. If that happens I don’t care what the Canucks do I think the Flames will be in a better spot