[News] Waiver Wire Oct 2 - Prosvetov, Kerins clear. Avs claim Solovyov

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

At the end of the day, we have lots of d prospects so it is not a huge deal. But I don't understand why they don't just waive Bean or Miromanov instead.

We know what those 2 players are.

Flames clearly think Soloyov is worse than those two guys, it’s really that simple.

[Mitch]

My glass half full take is that our depth/AHL guys are good enough for a top 5 team to consider snagging them off waivers.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Solovyov is 25 years old and hasn't been able to stick on the team at any point, it's not like he is a young prospect. Guys like him are available on waivers all the time. I don't understand why this is a big deal. Viktor Soderstrom is on waivers today and is probably better than Solovyov.

I think many just see him as a better option with potentially more long term upside than a couple of players still on the roster. At 25, for a defenseman I think there is still room to progress and he seemed to have a good camp.

In the big picture, it probably doesn't move the needle, but losing a homegrown guy that fans liked is a bit of a downer.

[Canada 02]

pretty significant loss for the Wranglers

Their D is going to be very young
Brzustewicz (20)
Morin (20)
Grushnikov (22)
Kuznetsov (22)
Poirier (23)
Mack (24)
Cicek (25)

[Jiri Hrdina]

What do people think Soloyov could have returned in a trade? Saying this is terrible asset management is laughable.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames clearly think Soloyov is worse than those two guys, it’s really that simple.

Yeah, but if that's what they think, I think they're dead wrong about that.

Miromanov and Bean are no good. Especially Miromanov. No NHL skill at all with Daniil at all.

[bdubbs]

Before waiver deadline: CP freaks out about the possibility of losing Kerins
After waiver deadline: CP freaks out about losing Solovyov, who had maybe a couple mentions?

Obviously, I say CP because it's easier to apply a broad brush, but the point remains...

This was the outcome if any of our waivers were claimed. Something to be outraged about!

Best of luck to Solovyov with the Avs.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

At the end of the day, we have lots of d prospects so it is not a huge deal. But I don't understand why they don't just waive Bean or Miromanov instead.

We know what those 2 players are.

Which is exactly why coaches will keep those players.
When they are throwing them over the boards they know what they can expect out of them.
Not right or wrong.
But coaches prefer predictability in what a player is going to do than a fear of the unknown every time that player is on the ice.


That said I would have kept Soloyov over Miromanov.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames clearly think Soloyov is worse than those two guys, it’s really that simple.

Or that he’s worse than one of them and despite being better than the other they’d rather he not just sit in the stands every game.

What I don’t get is the asset management comments. Lose Solo for nothing, lose Miromanov for nothing, what’s the difference? Neither has trade value.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Karl

Yeah, but if that's what they think, I think they're dead wrong about that.

They need to waive one of those guys anyway...maybe they tried to sneak the other guy through early I mean he made it through most of the list, good chance he is waived again too.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

At the end of the day, we have lots of d prospects so it is not a huge deal. But I don't understand why they don't just waive Bean or Miromanov instead.

We know what those 2 players are.

There are players coming through the system who are younger and probably viewed as potentially being more impactful, so the Flames were willing to take chance Solovyov would be claimed. I’m sure they’d love to still have him, but like all young players there would be mistakes during his adjustment to the league that guys like Miromanov and Bean have grown out of. Their gaffs come from their limitations, not experience, and a coach at least knows what to expect.

With Parekh apparently being labeled for the team there’s only so much appetite for youthful mistakes. On the surface I agree with you, but the timing just doesn’t work for Solovyov with this team. Hope he succeeds with the Avs.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I think people are more upset that they kept 2 older players up, who are at best about the same skill level in Bean and Miromanov. Those 2 players should have been waived instead.

Those two players are better fits for a #7 slot.

[Finger Cookin]

Let me be among the first to congratulate Ilya Solovyov on his induction to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Those two players are better fits for a #7 slot.

Miromanov is best fit for a #0 slot.

[dino7c]

11th overall pick right handed dman is on waivers today...likely an asset upgrade

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Flames clearly think Soloyov is worse than those two guys, it’s really that simple.

Are they just thinking in the moment though, or are they looking at the future. Miromanov and Bean probably have close to a zero percent chance of being positive contributions on this team in a few years when hopefully a contention window opens. Solo is probably a long shot, but I would put his chances as higher than zero.

It's not worth getting too upset about, but also not great either.

[devo22]

Losing Solovyov is not the end of the world, but I'd rather have kept him as a 7 ahead of Bean and Miromanov. Oh well, good luck in Colorado.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I think people are more upset that they kept 2 older players up, who are at best about the same skill level in Bean and Miromanov. Those 2 players should have been waived instead.

I think you're right on Miromanov that he would have made it through and no one would have claimed him, but Bean is a serviceable 6/7 defenceman and will likely have more value at the trade deadline than Solovyov, if he played the year as the 7th/6th guy in Calgary.

It seems like good asset management since Solovyov isn't really worth anything right now.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

pretty significant loss for the Wranglers

Their D is going to be very young
Brzustewicz (20)
Morin (20)
Grushnikov (22)
Kuznetsov (22)
Poirier (23)
Mack (24)
Cicek (25)

Maybe young, but look at games played
Bru 70
Grush 126
Kuznetsov 216
Poirier 163
Cicek 157

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Terrible asset management. Wtf is Conroy doing?

Unbelievably terrible asset management where the Flames go through the same annual process as all 31 other clubs, every season. I'm not one to exaggerate, but this may go down in Flames history as the single biggest blunder.