[GDT] Kraken @ Flames: Sept. 30 - 7:00pm MDT (FlamesTV, SN960)

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by sch19lks

I honestly don’t think Pelletier would get claimed if he was put on waivers.

Every single year, fans are always so certain that Player A and Player B will get claimed. Then they don’t get claimed.

Pelletier has injury concerns. I don’t think there’s a team that will claim him based on how he’s looked since getting hurt in training camp last season. He’s also five years removed from being a first round pick

I don’t know why but I got this feeling Montreal will take him, but at the same time he hasn’t earned a roster spot. Plus the younger prospects on the Flames are starting to pass him.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I still don’t like the idea of waiving Pelletier. The goal for this season should be to work as hard as possible to gain as few points as possible while maintaining/gaining as many assists as possible. How would giving away an asset for nothing help to meet that goal? The Flames need players with good attitude and middling skill this year.

This year is all about asset management and tanking. Next season or the following one player development can become the primary focus once a few potential top 6 centres have been drafted.

I doubt the players and coaches goal is to lose games. They are trying to install a hard working culture where things are earned. Why would you keep Peletier up and send Honzek down if you wanted players to buy into that?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

I don’t know why but I got this feeling Montreal will take him, but at the same time he hasn’t earned a roster spot. Plus the younger prospects on the Flames are starting to pass him.

He was given plenty of opportunities and didn’t take advantage. I don’t think it would be fair to the other players that did if he were kept on the big club.

[Wastedyouth]

Giving up on a 23 year old who has scored extremely well at every level he has played at is bad asset management.

Heck the kid outperformed Zary at every level besides the NHL, so far.

He has exactly one year of "injury history".

It's wild how quickly the sentiment against him has turned.

He had a rough year from a bad shoulder last year and then a preseason where he hasn't put up a tonne a points, but then again, neither have half the vets on the team.

In my opinion losing him on waivers would be extremely poor management of the player.

[Andrew]

Staunch honzek supporter BTW.... look at his goal. If he bulks up can even Hedman defend that? Decent wheels. Shields puck. Decent hands. Still young. Legs give him a chance

Mind u d backs in lol preseason but it's a glimpse i feel why conroy drafted him. Injured. Hope he silences judgemental early critics. Size wins d and forward

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sch19lks

I honestly don’t think Pelletier would get claimed if he was put on waivers.

Every single year, fans are always so certain that Player A and Player B will get claimed. Then they don’t get claimed.

Pelletier has injury concerns. I don’t think there’s a team that will claim him based on how he’s looked since getting hurt in training camp last season. He’s also five years removed from being a first round pick

Valimaki and Byron say hi.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Valimaki and Byron say hi.

Like less than 5% ?

Anyway, Byron was super fast and a good role player. Valimaki a bottom pairing.

Are they really losing much with Pelletier? Is he going to be any more than a fringe player even if he makes it?

He is certainly not making his case right now

I am not advocating waiving him but he is running out of time quick

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Giving up on a 23 year old who has scored extremely well at every level he has played at is bad asset management.

Heck the kid outperformed Zary at every level besides the NHL, so far.

He has exactly one year of "injury history".

It's wild how quickly the sentiment against him has turned.

He had a rough year from a bad shoulder last year and then a preseason where he hasn't put up a tonne a points, but then again, neither have half the vets on the team.

In my opinion losing him on waivers would be extremely poor management of the player.

I can give you tons of career minor leaguers that outplayed and had better production than Pelletier . If he can’t perform at this level when he needs to show it then what he did in the minor is meaningless

[Bingo]

Hoping those that feel exposing Pelletier (and losing him is no big deal) aren't the same posters that bemoaned the loss of Valimaki.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It's wild how quickly the sentiment against him has turned.

And 2 weeks ago Honzek was a bust!

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Hoping those that feel exposing Pelletier (and losing him is no big deal) aren't the same posters that bemoaned the loss of Valimaki.

I agree. Factor in our current prospect depth too. Size matters. In last 10 years had small wingers have wr won anything?

[Strange Brew]

You can’t put too much stock in exhibition games, so waiving Pelletier based on such a small sample just seems premature to me. He performed at the AHL and even NHL level prior to his injury. Give him some regular season time before you risk losing him.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Hoping those that feel exposing Pelletier (and losing him is no big deal) aren't the same posters that bemoaned the loss of Valimaki.

I feel they are very different circumstances.

We lost Valimaki due to Mackey was it?
I also think that blow was amplified because the team anticipated Kylington's return that never came.

If we lost Pelletier it would be due to Honzek, Coronato, Klapka?

I feel I could live with that.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You can’t put too much stock in exhibition games, so waiving Pelletier based on such a small sample just seems premature to me. He performed at the AHL and even NHL level prior to his injury. Give him some regular season time before you risk losing him.

No he didnt.

He has been nothing short of mediocre at best in Calgary in his short stints.

I understand the fear people have of losing the guy for nothing (tho i think its maybe 1% chance of happening) but no need for hyperbole.

How he has performed at the AHL level means squat tho. That league is full of guys who play really well there but cannot translate it to the next level. In fact every single team has those guys on it.

Keeping hum in hopes he gets better when the competition ratches up seems ridiculous to me. He just is not NHL ready yet, and may never be.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You can’t put too much stock in exhibition games, so waiving Pelletier based on such a small sample just seems premature to me. He performed at the AHL and even NHL level prior to his injury. Give him some regular season time before you risk losing him.

In some ways I agree keep him on roster. Not opposed either way. It's a tough call. A player could break out in another system and management gets flak. Not opposed either way. Pelletier put himself in this position injuries or not. Needs to step up. Waivers justified for performance just might bite us and I don't fault management.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Giving up on a 23 year old who has scored extremely well at every level he has played at is bad asset management.

Heck the kid outperformed Zary at every level besides the NHL, so far.

He has exactly one year of "injury history".

It's wild how quickly the sentiment against him has turned.

He had a rough year from a bad shoulder last year and then a preseason where he hasn't put up a tonne a points, but then again, neither have half the vets on the team.

In my opinion losing him on waivers would be extremely poor management of the player.

If he were waiver exempt I think the narrative around him would be different.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No he didnt.

He has been nothing short of mediocre at best in Calgary in his short stints.

I understand the fear people have of losing the guy for nothing (tho i think its maybe 1% chance of happening) but no need for hyperbole.

How he has performed at the AHL level means squat tho. That league is full of guys who play really well there but cannot translate it to the next level. In fact every single team has those guys on it.

Keeping hum in hopes he gets better when the competition ratches up seems ridiculous to me. He just is not NHL ready yet, and may never be.

I disagree. I thought he looked like a good energy player his first time up with the club before getting hurt. Injuries have really hampered him and that matters. Availability is the best ability as they say but I see no harm in giving him some more time to prove he can still progress and stay healthy. It’s not like there’s another player in risk of being claimed should they keep Pelletier.

[Bingo]

Heard Pelletier on 960 the other day.

He seemed pretty calm about things. Talked about how the offence will come and he's pressing.

Made we wonder if he knows the plan and is not getting waived.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Giving up on a 23 year old who has scored extremely well at every level he has played at is bad asset management.

Heck the kid outperformed Zary at every level besides the NHL, so far.

He has exactly one year of "injury history".

It's wild how quickly the sentiment against him has turned.

He had a rough year from a bad shoulder last year and then a preseason where he hasn't put up a tonne a points, but then again, neither have half the vets on the team.

In my opinion losing him on waivers would be extremely poor management of the player.

I agree with much of this, and I think it is too early to give up on Pelletier and assume he's a bust.

The problem is that he is not currently ready to be on the roster. And having him eat popcorn is the absolute worst thing for him right now. He needs to play, and to try and get his confidence back. And that is only going to happen in the A.

Unfortunately, waiver eligibility is forcing the Flames' hand on this. But they need to do what is right for the player and for the team, and that is to send him to the Wranglers where he can play. If he gets waived, those are the breaks.

[ThisIsAnOutrage]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Let's smother this "razzy andy" in the crib like responsible people

Nah. More people use it than you think. I've been using Razzy Andy for years already.

Long live Razzy Andy!