[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[Vinny01]

The DFO rundown podcast today appears to be all about the Flames. Frank mentions that teams calling the Flames have been told they are trying to re-sign him and they haven’t engaged on trade packages. I am not sure that is the case but Connie better start talking packages asap.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 868904

Darryl is not a bad person, he just did what he was brought here to do in the only way he knows and the only way that has brought him success. We asked for it not realizing society and players had changed. Getting tired of all the Darryl bashing. We asked for him, we wanted him, and we got him.

I disagree. He fully deserves all the bashing he received. All of it. There's no excuse for torpedoing a season like he did. No excuse at all when you are paid millions to coach a team to win hockey games. Don't sell him short with the "only way he knows stuff". He's far more intelligent than that and exactly what he was doing this season and it was all about showing the players who's boss and not winning hockey games. His ice time deployment of plugs at critical moments in games where the team needed goals was absolutely criminal.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I disagree. He fully deserves all the bashing he received. All of it. There's no excuse for torpedoing a season like he did. No excuse at all when you are paid millions to coach a team to win hockey games. Don't sell him short with the "only way he knows stuff". He's far more intelligent than that and exactly what he was doing this season and it was all about showing the players who's boss and not winning hockey games. His ice time deployment of plugs at critical moments in games where the team needed goals was absolutely criminal.

Yup, we’ve been over it again and again. It wasn’t the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, it was his decision making on the bench, and in regards to his deployment of the roster. It was like he was purposely sabotaging the season to make Tre look bad.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

People are going to have to get used to Kadri being the centre for Huberdeau again. Not a lot of choices left.

If they re-sign Lindholm :

Mangiapane - Kadri - Dube

being able to play a more open and high energy style, has the potential to be one of the top second lines in the league. They all can play with an edge, and with their heart on their sleeve. That would also be infectious to the rest of the lineup.

I think that the best option for Calgary is to look at a trade that brings in a top line RW, who plays on the off-side so Huberdeau can feed him, and Lindholm can run the line and pick up garbage.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I agree with the Jack Adam’s comment but I don’t agree that Sutter doesn’t have an ego. How many inferences did he make about “knowing how to win” and the fact he’s done it? And he’s the only true one who knows what it takes? That was always the underlying theme to me in so many press conferences.

Personally I think Sutters ego is off the charts, potentially the most egotistical coach I’ve ever seen. How else do you explain what really matters, which are his actions? His actions and bizarre coaching choices last year were literally rooted in his belief that he knew all. How else do you square playing Huberdeau on his off wing or throwing in Nick Ritchie in the most important shootout opportunity of the season?

Huberdeau was bad from the beginning. He was fumbling the puck like a grenade even without pressure. He was moved to the RW because he was ineffective on the LW. Darryl was desperate to try anything to get him going, including playing him with the french canadian prospect who played on the LW.

Huberdeau was bad. His play was bad. He didn't warrant more ice time. He was ineffective on the powerplay at the beginning of the season; Darryl gave him lots of time to "work things out" and he never did. Other players, Toffoli in particular, were much more effective on the PP and so they played more. Huberdeau was really really bad. I hadn't been as frustrated with a player more than him last year. Constantly making bad plays, bad passes, turning over the puck. I was frustrated with Huberdeau, screaming at the tv every time he turned the puck over and did nothing with an opportunity. I can only imagine how frustrated Darryl was.

Now if you say Huberdeau was bad because he couldn't deal with how Darryl is, well that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that Huberdeau was INEFFECTIVE which is why Darryl had to do some of those odd things like moving him to the RW. And really, moving a winger to his off-wing is not some crazy idea, it worked incredibly well the season before with Tkachuk. Some players just have a special inner competitive drive to excel no matter how they are treated, while others have to be treated a certain way in order to excel.

[Samonadreau]

Not sure if its been mentioned as its hard to keep up with things but Seravalli tweating that general leaque speculation is that Lindholm is leaning towards not re-signing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1671898356191297537

[Gaskal]

Might be for the best, considering that Murray Edwards needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into a rebuild every time its actually needed

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Not sure if its been mentioned as its hard to keep up with things but Seravalli tweating that general leaque speculation is that Lindholm is leaning towards not re-signing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1671898356191297537

lol its been the discussion here since the tweet came out at like 10am

[Manhattanboy]

Of the three, Lindholm will be the hardest to replace.

Not great. What a debacle.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Of the three, Lindholm will be the hardest to replace.

Not great. What a debacle.

Depends. Do you think the team can contend if they re-sign Lindholm and lose UFAs. Losing Lindholm will at least give them a clear direction.

[dissentowner]

I like FS but his info is not the same as mine. The last info I have is that both Lindholm and the Flames want to get an extension done and he does want to be a Calgary Flame. Now maybe that changed because the Flames made a take it or leave it offer that didn't match what Lindholm was asking. As I reported before, I had heard they were $1M/yr apart from my source, if that is an 8 year term that is $8M over the length of the deal. That is a lot of money for the player to walk away from. Maybe they couldn't agree on length of term. Maybe they couldn't agree on clauses and bonuses. Many things could have happened since I last got any info so FS could be accurate here, I honestly don't know.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I like FS but his info is not the same as mine. The last info I have is that both Lindholm and the Flames want to get an extension done and he does want to be a Calgary Flame. Now maybe that changed because the Flames made a take it or leave it offer that didn't match what Lindholm was asking. As I reported before, I had heard they were $1M/yr apart from my source, if that is an 8 year term that is $8M over the length of the deal. That is a lot of money for the player to walk away from. Maybe they couldn't agree on length of term. Maybe they couldn't agree on clauses and bonuses. Many things could have happened since I last got any info so FS could be accurate here, I honestly don't know.

Could also be that he is the only UFA that was actually open to re-signing and is now hearing that and stepping back. So many moving parts it probably changes every 6 hours lol

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by camm13

lol its been the discussion here since the tweet came out at like 10am

How bout lol i didnt see the tweet posted in the thread yet.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

After last summer this is bull####.

What other club has to deal with a mass exodus of players like this?

There are worse markets to be in, and a number of them.

And this after they boot the mean coach and put in the guy they gave their votes for. #### these guys.

Trade them to basement dwellers then go kick ass next season.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Not sure if its been mentioned as its hard to keep up with things but Seravalli tweating that general leaque speculation is that Lindholm is leaning towards not re-signing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1671898356191297537

Such loyalty these days from the players.

[GioforPM]

Here's another "morphing" of a tweet. Seravelli hasn't said word one about what Lindy or his rep has told him. Just what "league speculation" is. Suddenly that's become "Hanifin said he isn't signing".

Whether he extends or not at the end of the day, it's just not what's been reported so far.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Could also be that he is the only UFA that was actually open to re-signing and is now hearing that and stepping back. So many moving parts it probably changes every 6 hours lol

Could also be his agent creating leverage.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Such loyalty these days from the players.

You want my loyalty? Pay me. This isn’t a volunteer job in the peace corps.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by 868904

Huberdeau was bad from the beginning. He was fumbling the puck like a grenade even without pressure. He was moved to the RW because he was ineffective on the LW. Darryl was desperate to try anything to get him going, including playing him with the french canadian prospect who played on the LW.

Huberdeau was bad. His play was bad. He didn't warrant more ice time. He was ineffective on the powerplay at the beginning of the season; Darryl gave him lots of time to "work things out" and he never did. Other players, Toffoli in particular, were much more effective on the PP and so they played more. Huberdeau was really really bad. I hadn't been as frustrated with a player more than him last year. Constantly making bad plays, bad passes, turning over the puck. I was frustrated with Huberdeau, screaming at the tv every time he turned the puck over and did nothing with an opportunity. I can only imagine how frustrated Darryl was.

Now if you say Huberdeau was bad because he couldn't deal with how Darryl is, well that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that Huberdeau was INEFFECTIVE which is why Darryl had to do some of those odd things like moving him to the RW. And really, moving a winger to his off-wing is not some crazy idea, it worked incredibly well the season before with Tkachuk. Some players just have a special inner competitive drive to excel no matter how they are treated, while others have to be treated a certain way in order to excel.

Huberdeau was bad to start for sure. But definitely the best way to help him out of that slump is to keep him on his wrong wing for 60+ games.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Such loyalty these days from the players.

There is no such thing as loyalty in the NHL (from either teams or players). The notion is completely ridiculous and foolish to believe in.

The NHL and all participants are 100% about money. Literally- nothing else.