[Signing] Flames sign Kylington (2 yrs, $2.5 mil AAV)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Yikes

Except on the flip side it is ok to go after the GM for the mishandling of an asset...JG. I don't know that I would use the word "commodity" and we all understand that #### happens in life...as GM you are not in HR you are in charge of the business activities of the team and business is business. OK needs some slack...fine. But the rope is only so long.

The rope is as long as Kylington wants it to be.

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[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Kylington's absence is not substance abuse related.


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He implied, you inferred. That wording is clumsy, but it doesn't explicitly include OK with those other players.


Speaking to the substance abuse program, I don't know that anybody should have their arm twisted into being revealed, but being public is probably for the best for a bunch of reasons.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Treliving specifically stated that it wasn’t substance abuse related months ago.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Treliving specifically stated that it wasn’t substance abuse related months ago.

Yeah, he was pretty clear about that. It is worth mentioning that the program is the "Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program" or SABHP for short. The name implies that it captures more than just substance abuse issues, although it is probably likely that most players who enter it do so because of substance abuse just given how common of a problem it is.

I am not sure if the salary cap rules apply like they do with LTIR though. I know players entered into the program do not count against the cap, but I don't know if it just means that the team can exceed the cap temporarily like with LTIR, or if there are actual cap savings. I assume it is the latter since putting a player on LTIR is strictly a team decision with no discretion from the player, whereas the SABHP is a player decision even if the team can pressure a player to enter.

Either way, this is an OT discussion because there is no reason to assume that this could be an avenue for the Flames since we have no idea what Kylington is dealing with.

[traptor]

Very sick immediate family member makes the most sense to me. He would be trying to spend as much time with that person as possible, provide support and wouldn't want to risk being in another continent. It would also be impossible to provide a time of return.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by united

The last credible person I can recall reporting on this was Elliotte Friedman, briefly, on the 32 Thoughts Podcast. Full quote for context as part of their discussion on Jakub Vrana entering treatment through the NHL/NHLPA Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program.

[I]“The other thing I’d like to say is there’s a big debate about whether or not these announcements should be made. Okay. And I understand everybody’s position on it. I think the worst thing is you know (Vrana) is on the non-roster list for a couple days and then there’s speculation, right. Sometimes I think the speculation is worse than the truth, because in this day and age – and we see this in a lot of different stories – reporters won’t report on the speculation, so it goes wild on social media and the internet. I actually think it’s better that you come out and say this is what it is – and the other

All the best to Kylington, and all the players being supported by the program - Texier, Vrana, Berdin, and I'm sure more.

I hope Kyllington is doing alright. But I just wanted to post this "credible" and "reporters won't report on speculation" are two things that should never be associated with Friedman.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

I hope Kyllington is doing alright. But I just wanted to post this "credible" and "reporters won't report on speculation" are two things that should never be associated with Friedman.

Except Friedman makes it very clear when he is 'reporting' something, or 'speculating' something.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Except Friedman makes it very clear when he is 'reporting' something, or 'speculating' something.

He should report he is "guessing" at something like the other insiders.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

He should report he is "guessing" at something like the other insiders.

He does...