[News] Tanev Update: Undergoing Surgery will likely be back between September and November

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not just Tree's best free agent signing, I would say the best free agent signing in the history of the franchise.

Joel Otto should be up there as well, one of the reasons we started to win against Edmonton.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Tanev is already my favorite Flame. May he bear the C.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by redforever

Joel Otto should be up there as well, one of the reasons we started to win against Edmonton.

I view signings like Otto and Gio to be different. Those are prospect free agents, as opposed to UFAs like Hudler and Tanev.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

I still can't believe we are operating in 2022 and people are praising players playing (and taking hits) with these kind of injuries.

No wonder Monahan is a broken 27 year old.

Let's call a spade a spade - this is an irresponsible organization. Would you trust your kids' future long-term health with the Flames medical staff?

I have seen it several times recently where people question the Flames medical staff and/or how the Flames handle players because players have played injured.

I just want to know if the people saying this are just blind to the rest of the league? Do people think that only the Flames let players play injured? Do they think that only Monahan tries to hide injuries?

This is a league wide thing and it isn't isolated to just the Flames.

So stop suggesting or questioning that the Flames medical staff isn't doing their jobs or that players won't come to Calgary because they're forced to play with injuries. That's just you wanting something to be upset with.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not just Tree's best free agent signing, I would say the best free agent signing in the history of the franchise.

Interesting question.

People slam Jaybo all the time but at the end of the day he was turned into a first round pick. I kid because Feaster didn't do well in that trade, but still most UFA's get bought out it seems. A few years of service followed by a first rounder is actually really good.

Hamrlik was an awesome UFA signing.

[rogermexico]

Of all the things the playoffs made me want, a second Chris Tanev was far and away at the top of the list.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Buff

I have seen it several times recently where people question the Flames medical staff and/or how the Flames handle players because players have played injured.

I just want to know if the people saying this are just blind to the rest of the league? Do people think that only the Flames let players play injured? Do they think that only Monahan tries to hide injuries?

This is a league wide thing and it isn't isolated to just the Flames.

So stop suggesting or questioning that the Flames medical staff isn't doing their jobs or that players won't come to Calgary because they're forced to play with injuries. That's just you wanting something to be upset with.

For the last six or so years the Flames have very consistently been one of the least injured teams.

It's not some fanbase myopia as you're framing it.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Interesting question.

People slam Jaybo all the time but at the end of the day he was turned into a first round pick. I kid because Feaster didn't do well in that trade, but still most UFA's get bought out it seems. A few years of service followed by a first rounder is actually really good.

Hamrlik was an awesome UFA signing.

Jaybo (1.25yrs x 6.68M) was traded on April 1 ahead of April 3 deadline and fetched:
- a 2013 1st (ended up 22oa)
- Berra (became a 2nd at 2014 TDL)
- Cundari (became nothing)


The only somewhat notable D traded in March/April were:

Mar 25: Douglas Murray (1.6M after retention) to PIT for two 2nds (one became Tyler Bertuzzi)

Mar 28: Iginla to PIT

Mar 30: Leopold (3M) to STL for 2nd + 5th

Apr 1: Regehr** (4.02M) to LAK for two 2nds (one became Cernak)


In June 2013 OTT received a 6th for 39 yo [but still quite productive] Gonchar (1x5.5M)

CGY acquired Russell from STL for a 5th... (possible 'future considerations' of the Jaybo trade? )

Into the season...

Jan 1 2014: Gleason (4M) for Liles (3.85M)
Jan 22: Del Zotto (2.55M) for Klein (2.9M)

2014 TDL:
Robidas (3.3M) for a 4th
Diaz (1.225M) for a 5th
Meszaros (retained down to 2M) for a 3rd
Nick Schultz (retained down to 1.75M) for a 5th
(Ryan Miller to STL, MSL to NYR, Gaborik to LAK 50% retained for a 2nd+3rd, Luongo back to FLA were the other notable TDL deals)

So you can't really point to a comparable trade to show that a greater return was out there. Maybe if they retained 50% for the rest of the deal they'd have gotten more, but consider that the only teams in the market for quality D were:
STL (where he went)
PIT (had already done the Murray and Iggy trades; would've been crazy for Feaster to work a Jaybo deal before expiring Iggy)
LAK coached by Darryl Sutter (take a wild guess who he'd prefer between Regehr and Jaybo...)

The extra year apparently wasn't a positive for anybody...including Murray Edwards. It also seems unlikely that holding him until the next TDL would have worked much better, as there were no bidding wars for expensive D.


**Weird follow up to the Regehr trade:

Spoiler!

At the 2014 TDL LAK acquired:
Brayden McNabb (2009 66OA, had played 37 games for BUF at that point)
Jonathan Parker (rando prospect)
2015 2nd (became 43OA Cernak)
2014 2nd

from BUF for

Nicolas Deslaurier (2009 84OA, had played 0 nhl games and had bad AHL numbers)
Hudson Fasching (2013 118OA...NCAA prospect; ended up playing 38 NHL games)

The 2nd rounders were originally owned by LAK and used to acquire Regehr 1 year earlier. Why on earth did BUF light those picks on fire for nothing?