02-20-2022, 10:48 PM
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#321
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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That sonofabitch!
He could have waited a game or two! Who does he think he is? Tyler Toffoli?
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02-20-2022, 11:02 PM
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#322
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by dino7c
He just happened to go on LTIR the day before Eichel was ready to go?
If he is back for game one of the playoffs its obvious they are using nagging injuries to game the system
If Stone gets a back surgery and is out until next year I will retract but I highly doubt it
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This is exactly what this thread should come down to. If he isn't ready for playoffs then those of us that are skeptical should retract. If he's ready for round 1 and the Knights field a $90mil team, I think it's pretty obvious what happened, at that point.
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02-21-2022, 12:30 AM
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#323
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
That sonofabitch!
He could have waited a game or two! Who does he think he is? Tyler Toffoli?
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Tonight was his 3rd game
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02-21-2022, 07:52 AM
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#324
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Someone has to. And he’s a team guy on a long term contract.
If there’s no Eichel trade, do we really believe he goes on LTIR at the exact same point in time? Seems almost impossible no?
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I think alot of hockey fans are nieve to the lengths hockey clubs and sports clubs will go to to get a championship, do people actually think hockey clubs are honest about everything, a 15 year old figure skater was just caught with performance enhancing drugs in her system.
I wish the league would crack down to this, I think they know what is going on, but they can't prove it, one day it would be nice to finally see some of these LTIR's, exposed for what they are, cap circumvention
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02-21-2022, 07:56 AM
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#325
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by NegativeSpace
A whole thread without consideration of needing to clear cap for Martinez.
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Would give me so much pleasure to see every other NHL team hang up the phone the moment that team is looking for cap relief help ....man I hate vegas
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02-21-2022, 08:38 AM
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#326
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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feels like a pretty easy thing to fix if the league wants to ... just introduce a "you can't ice a lineup exceeding x $ in the playoffs" rule. The league has cracked down on other cap circumvention stuff before (recapture penalty etc), so I don't see how they can allow this BS to continue to happen.
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02-21-2022, 08:54 AM
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#327
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
feels like a pretty easy thing to fix if the league wants to ... just introduce a "you can't ice a lineup exceeding x $ in the playoffs" rule. The league has cracked down on other cap circumvention stuff before (recapture penalty etc), so I don't see how they can allow this BS to continue to happen.
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Agreed.
The CBA, is no different than public policy, building codes, and laws in general. They are reactionary, usually result in unintended consequences once they are in practice, and ALWAYS upset a portion of the population.
The league will adjust, and there will be something new to complain about.
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02-21-2022, 09:16 AM
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#328
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They may as well go back to the 15 year contracts instead of carrying on with this charade.
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02-21-2022, 09:38 AM
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#329
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
feels like a pretty easy thing to fix if the league wants to ... just introduce a "you can't ice a lineup exceeding x $ in the playoffs" rule. The league has cracked down on other cap circumvention stuff before (recapture penalty etc), so I don't see how they can allow this BS to continue to happen.
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They could. The uncomfortable truth is they don’t want to fix it. The owners have had the conversation in the past and they are fine with that loophole. This might not make fans happy (particularly of other teams), but who cares?
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02-21-2022, 10:44 AM
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#330
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They could. The uncomfortable truth is they don’t want to fix it. The owners have had the conversation in the past and they are fine with that loophole. This might not make fans happy (particularly of other teams), but who cares?
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The NHL should care a lot if their actions (or inactions) make fans happy or not since we're the only reason this whole thing can even exist.
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02-21-2022, 11:20 AM
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#331
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by codynw
The NHL should care a lot if their actions (or inactions) make fans happy or not since we're the only reason this whole thing can even exist.
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Depends if you are a tier 1 or tier 2 fan. #oilazlogic
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02-22-2022, 09:06 AM
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#332
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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So the Sabres are allowing Drake Caggulia to get the same neck fusion surgery they would not let Eichel get?
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02-22-2022, 09:14 AM
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#333
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
So the Sabres are allowing Drake Caggulia to get the same neck fusion surgery they would not let Eichel get?
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The opposite, he's getting the fusion surgery that Eichel refused to get. Disc replacement is what Eichel wanted and eventually got
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02-22-2022, 09:14 AM
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#334
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
feels like a pretty easy thing to fix if the league wants to ... just introduce a "you can't ice a lineup exceeding x $ in the playoffs" rule. The league has cracked down on other cap circumvention stuff before (recapture penalty etc), so I don't see how they can allow this BS to continue to happen.
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That even covers off long term injuries where you need to make a move to compete, but still could bring back the injured player. You just need to take the cap into consideration for who is dressing. Benched guys don’t count (unlike during the season). It seems so obvious.
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02-22-2022, 09:19 AM
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#335
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
The opposite, he's getting the fusion surgery that Eichel refused to get. Disc replacement is what Eichel wanted and eventually got
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My bad I read the tweet incorrectly
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02-22-2022, 09:26 AM
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#336
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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I haven't thought this through fully, so there may be an obvious reason why it would not be possible - but, if you are trading for a player, or signing a UFA that makes you non-cap compliant with a full healthy roster the trade should not be able to close until the cap space is cleared. Make it similar to when you buy a house, ie. this deal will close in one week conditional on team x becoming cap compliant.
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02-22-2022, 09:27 AM
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#337
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Alex Tuch, after coming back from surgery, currently has 7 goals, 21 points in 19 games, and is a +5 in Buffalo. Interesting.
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02-22-2022, 09:35 AM
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#338
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Alex Tuch, after coming back from surgery, currently has 7 goals, 21 points in 19 games, and is a +5 in Buffalo. Interesting.
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And Krebs has 9 points in 17 games.
So as much as Buffalo was criticized for not getting enough, and a sense from some that the Flames could have "easily beaten the offer", the early returns would suggest Buffalo may have been right.
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02-22-2022, 09:41 AM
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#339
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I always thought Tuch was underrated and kind of buried on the Vegas roster. He has a lot of tools in a big frame.
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02-22-2022, 11:49 AM
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#340
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I always thought Tuch was underrated and kind of buried on the Vegas roster. He has a lot of tools in a big frame.
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Always wished we could get him somehow.
Happy to see him thriving outside of Vegas.
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