[News] Giordano left unprotected in expansion draft

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

And you're equating two completely different deadlines. We have no idea what the upcoming TDL is going to look like. We have no idea what teams will be looking for, and we have no idea whether Gio's game will be at a high level or not. We also don't know if he'll be healthy. We have no idea what could happen between now and the deadline, so to project that we'll be able to get anything at this point is really premature. Gio could get hurt and then be worth nothing at the deadline. We just don't know.

We also don’t know if the Flames will be buyers or sellers. Absolutely pointless to look at next years trade deadline as any kind of benchmark in regards to Gio.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

It's so classic flames. Our team sucked recently, but we may end up losing one of the most valuable players in the league that wasn't protected.

Maybe most valuable in the league two years ago. Last year Gio was a shadow of his Norris trophy winning season.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Stating facts is most definitely not a knock on someone. Don’t confuse the two.

Middle six includes 2nd and 3rd line. Again talking about ice time, Lanny, Peplinski were not in that category at the end of their careers. That is all.

Talking about ice time, Peplinski actually played on the third line in the last full year of his career. That is the fact. That is all.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Since1984

Maybe most valuable in the league two years ago. Last year Gio was a shadow of his Norris trophy winning season.

Missing my point. Out of the non-protected players Seattle can take across the league, he is in the top tier of those.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I'm all about getting rid of Treliving based on lack of success and not a great promising future, but let's not blame him for the expansion draft.

Gee, and I was told that nobody is blaming him for the expansion draft. Go figure.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

Even if you could have found a taker for him, you'd be taking salary back. If SEA does take him, that's a clean break and a big bump in cap space. I think it'd be great if they took him outright.

It's only great if that cap space isn't wasted on the next Neal or Brouwer. Hopefully Treliving has learned.

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[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Missing my point. Out of the non-protected players Seattle can take across the league, he is in the top tier of those.

I'm not sure how that's classic Flames. There has been one expansion draft in this format previous, and we lost a just-OK UFA we likely weren't signing.

We'd lose a good player regardless of who we protected. And if our team has sucked recently, maybe they're not that good.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Fire Treliving and make Giordano the General Manager.

You can't trade yourself!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

It's only great if that cap space isn't wasted on the next Neal or Brouwer. Hopefully Treliving has learned.

Well, he obviously hasn't learned anything, because last season he went out and wasted his cap space on Markstrom and Tanev. Right?

[InternationalVillager]

Habs might lose Carey frickin Price and here some posters are going on and on about losing a 38 year old Giordano....who might have 1 more year left to play in the league, maybe 2...for which he can come back to Calgary if he wanted to. Seriously...not a big deal.

We are in a much better position.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

And you're equating two completely different deadlines. We have no idea what the upcoming TDL is going to look like. We have no idea what teams will be looking for, and we have no idea whether Gio's game will be at a high level or not. We also don't know if he'll be healthy. We have no idea what could happen between now and the deadline, so to project that we'll be able to get anything at this point is really premature. Gio could get hurt and then be worth nothing at the deadline. We just don't know.

How high a level was Foligno playing at this years TDL? His PPG were lower than his historic numbers. They signed him for experience and grit, but that probably doesn't change with Gio either.

[Wolfman]

I wonder if Martinez is an option for replacing Gio. Played for Darryl in LA.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I wonder if Martinez is an option for replacing Gio. Played for Darryl in LA.

My thoughts exactly...

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Still think Treliving buckles and sends a 3rd to Seattle for them to pick Kylington.

If that all it takes to keep the team's best overall defenseman, I'd be all for that.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I'm not sure how that's classic Flames. There has been one expansion draft in this format previous, and we lost a just-OK UFA we likely weren't signing.

We'd lose a good player regardless of who we protected. And if our team has sucked recently, maybe they're not that good.

Classic flames as in our crappy luck/can’t catch a break kind of way. Not as in they could have done something different.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

The thing about Dube that sticks out is his drive. Kid drives the net (and with finish) like your classic middle six player won't often do. He appears to have an extra gear that could be exploited under the right coaches/leadership.

Labelling him this early as ordinary might be short sighted. I have a feeling about him.

He’s one of those players who seems like he has an extra gear when he has the puck on his stick. Sutter seems to be challenging him to consistently play at a high gear when the other team has the puck. Which is something most NHLers who were stars in junior need to learn.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

The thing about Dube that sticks out is his drive. Kid drives the net (and with finish) like your classic middle six player won't often do. He appears to have an extra gear that could be exploited under the right coaches/leadership.

Labelling him this early as ordinary might be short sighted. I have a feeling about him.

I've liked him since he was drafted. I think he's got second line potential easily. which is, of course middle six. and also top six.

[868904]

If the Flames had protect 4 defenseman and exposed Monahan, Backlund and Dube; who would Seattle have taken?

Are any of those 3 worth a first round draft pick at the trade deadline? Yes, I'm assuming the Flames will be sellers, lowered expectations.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Classic flames as in our crappy luck/can’t catch a break kind of way. Not as in they could have done something different.

Last time plenty of people were pissed and complained that the Flames were so pathetic that we didn't have anyone good to expose so VGK ended up taking Engelland, a pending UFA who they could have had for free.

Now we leave Gio exposed, who is clearly the correct choice, and there's anger that we already suck and are losing a good player. Shouldn't we be happy that we have good depth now if it means leaving Gio exposed? Or did he only suck when Tre was going to trade a draft pick to get Seattle to take someone else?

BTW, I am so tired of the speculation. Come on already, let's get Kraken.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Classic flames as in our crappy luck/can’t catch a break kind of way. Not as in they could have done something different.

That makes sense, though I think between our luck last time and this time, it balances out.

Gaining the cap space and changing up the leadership are positives, at least.