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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Strange how Scheifele was grabbing the front of his knee. But I suppose we'll have to await the results of a forensic investigation.

Right?

To me it looked like Scheifele twisted his knee by turning with his foot jammed against the boards. At the very most Tkachuk’s foot was also in the same area so it maybe pinned Scheifele’s foot a little.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I feel bad for Scheifele; that looked like an ugly injury, but at the same time, just take the hit.
The only intent Tkachuk had was to crush Scheifele, because this is playoffs, and that's what you do to get the edge.

I thought the Gio slash (even if it wasn't the cause of Laine's injury) was way worse. That I can undertaken the Jets/Jets fans being miffed about.

If by “slash” you mean crosscheck, and if by “much worse”, you mean something that happens dozens if not hundreds of times a game, I agree with you.

[WinnipegFan]

I am a Jets fan through and through and Scheifele is my favourite player. That being said he tried to bail out of contact and got hurt. That is on him not Tkatchuk, I saw it as an unlucky hockey play. He should have taken his hit. This hurts the Jets a lot and Wheeler throwing the gloves next play was not the right call either. Jets were not the better team last night. I think they will play hard but the loss of two key players is going to hit them hard. I think Laine hurts his hand when it goes into the boards after he accidentally ran into Gio. I am sure Lainenis more worries about whether this will affect his fortnite stats than the hockey.

That being said Maurice doesn’t go off easily but unless they release that video feed and it shows something blatant, that was hockey and it sucked but it is a dangerous sport. Scheifele doesn’t explode a knee from a kick?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

At the end of the day we have no way of knowing if Tkachuk's skate caused the injury or if it was the collision with the boards. Based on how Scheifele reacted, it seemed to me like it was the latter. If so, then the whole thing cannot possibly be blamed on Tkachuk. But we won't find out until after the Jets are eliminated.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

And in that game Mike Smith stood on his head. We were chanting his name for large chunks of that game. Yeah, we won 4-0 but that really didn’t tell the story of the balance of play in that game.

Last night was a much more solid performance.

I keep seeing this narrative about that game pop up, and it's driving me crazy. Game 1 v Colorado was a very even affair until about the 5 min-mark of the 2nd period. From that point on, the Flames actually carried the play. They outshot the Avalanche 13-8 in the 2nd, and 32-26 in the game. Mike Smith was good, but the Flames as a whole were better than Colorado, which is why they won.

Anyhow, last night's game was fun. I thought everyone played well.

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[CalgaryFan1988]

Sportsnet media doesn't help, in their constant quest for a storyline.

Trying to say that Giordano had something to do with the Laine injury, nevermind that it's the different hand altogether.

Conveniently left out the piece of the Maurice interview when Paul said the injury had nothing to do with Giordano.

Anything for a story! TMZ

[RM14]

Originally Posted by WinnipegFan

That being said he tried to bail out of contact and got hurt. That is on him not Tkatchuk, I saw it as an unlucky hockey play. He should have taken his hit.

This is it. Trying to avoid a hit can often be worse than just taking the hit

[BobaFett]

https://twitter.com/nhlflames/status...158424578?s=21

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by jmac98

Its a fairly prominent storyline coming off a game played less than 12 hours ago. For people to go on a discussion forum designed for community conversation and dedicated to the Calgary Flames to offer opinions on topic is in fact quite natural.

I appreciate you are of the ilk to get over it and move on, however, don’t go outside when it’s raining if you don’t wish to get wet. People are just discussing the game. Validate your stance when enough time has passed from the incident to support your statement. Its the morning after my friend. And this is a hockey forum.

I'm of the opinion that we, as fans, can be a bit more magnanimous and a little better than the fans we like to trash on.

People in this thread are acting like they and the Flames are the victims here. It's funny. And im just saying, be a good winner. Not a poor one.

[jmac98]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I'm of the opinion that we, as fans, can be a bit more magnanimous and a little better than the fans we like to trash on.

People in this thread are acting like they and the Flames are the victims here. It's funny. And im just saying, be a good winner. Not a poor one.

I respect that opinion. Thank you for the reply.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Tkachuk's reaction to the backlund goal was great also.

He's taken on the role of the vocal leader since coming back.

It was the penalty where he got blindsided so you know he personally wanted to make them pay. Almost did it himself (hit both posts) but obviously just as happy his teammate could bury it. Give credit to Backlund as well — it was a huge goal to continue the momentum and he absolutely sniped it against the best goalie in the league this year. No small feat.

Back to Tkachuk, you can also tell he’s not happy about having a 1-8 record in the playoffs and taking it upon himself to do everything he possibly can this series. He is so dialled in right now I’m a bit concerned about whether he can keep it up. However, I think he’s just wired this way and I’m sure he’s had a few thousand conversations with his dad about being mentally focused for the playoffs. And with all the scrutiny with the Kassian incident and the BOA generally this year, combined with last year’s playoff loss, I think they’re as battle-tested as they could be right now.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Defemation lol. Yikes. Can't you just enjoy the win? Let Maurice whine. It's his job to create a distraction. On purpose or not, a player with a well deserved reputation kicked and sliced the Jets best skater and took him out. Is it so shocking theres a reaction?

Wow, what a hypocritical and terrible post.

You ask Flames fans to just just enjoy the win and not react to comments like Maurice's and Staples and pretty much every Jet fan on the planet, while at the same time, use ridiculous hyperbole to try and further stir the pot and entice Flames fans. Just an embarrassing post.

Actually no, I take it back, it wasn't hyperbole. It was simply flat out wrong. Tkachuk was falling into the boards after almost missing Sheifele with a check. His skate came off the ice a bit as he was falling backwards, but at no time did he ever make any kind of kicking motion. None. At all. No matter how hard you try to see one. He wasn't even looking at Sheifele at the time. And it doesn't appear that his skate even made contact with Sheifele.

Sheifele turned away from a check from Tkachuk and got twisted up by the boards. Totally sucks. But try to act like an adult if you're going to post on a Flames board.

[GioforPM]

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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The injury was 30 per cent Tkachuk’s borderline dirty contact with Schiefle in a vulnerable position, 30 per cent Schiefle’s unwise reaction to that contact, and 40 per cent bad luck.

I don't know why Tkachuk shoulders any blame here at all. "Borderline dirty contact"? He followed his check into the boards, which is what players are supposed to do. His foot likely made contact with Sheifele, and was a contributing cause to why the leg buckled, but those things are liable to happen in hockey.

There was nothing "borderline" and most certainly nothing "dirty" about Tkachuk's part in this. It was a hockey play, from start to finish.

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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by WinnipegFan

I am a Jets fan through and through and Scheifele is my favourite player. That being said he tried to bail out of contact and got hurt. That is on him not Tkatchuk, I saw it as an unlucky hockey play. He should have taken his hit. This hurts the Jets a lot and Wheeler throwing the gloves next play was not the right call either. Jets were not the better team last night. I think they will play hard but the loss of two key players is going to hit them hard. I think Laine hurts his hand when it goes into the boards after he accidentally ran into Gio. I am sure Lainenis more worries about whether this will affect his fortnite stats than the hockey.

That being said Maurice doesn’t go off easily but unless they release that video feed and it shows something blatant, that was hockey and it sucked but it is a dangerous sport. Scheifele doesn’t explode a knee from a kick?

Good post, thanks.

Disagree about Wheeler though. He is the captain and he stepped up. It was only 5 minutes into the game (not 5 minutes left in a one-goal game), so I think he made a good call and did the right thing, stepping up for his team (despite the fact that Tkachuk didn't do anything).

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I'm of the opinion that we, as fans, can be a bit more magnanimous and a little better than the fans we like to trash on.

People in this thread are acting like they and the Flames are the victims here. It's funny. And im just saying, be a good winner. Not a poor one.

What are you even talking about? Nobody is being a poor winner. The opposing coach is attacking one of our players saying he purposefully hurt one of their players with a "disgusting hit" and most of us are using video evidence and logic to say that statement is blatantly false and defending our player. It has nothing to do with whether the Flames won or lost the game.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I kinda like the angle the media is taking here.

It’s so obviously a non-intent play that any fan who reads the headline first is going to wonder if they are watching the correct replay.

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Wow, what a hypocritical and terrible post.

You ask Flames fans to just just enjoy the win and not react to comments like Maurice's and Staples and pretty much every Jet fan on the planet, while at the same time, use ridiculous hyperbole to try and further stir the pot and entice Flames fans. Just an embarrassing post.

Actually no, I take it back, it wasn't hyperbole. It was simply flat out wrong. Tkachuk was falling into the boards after almost missing Sheifele with a check. His skate came off the ice a bit as he was falling backwards, but at no time did he ever make any kind of kicking motion. None. At all. No matter how hard you try to see one. He wasn't even looking at Sheifele at the time. And it doesn't appear that his skate even made contact with Sheifele.

Sheifele turned away from a check from Tkachuk and got twisted up by the boards. Totally sucks. But try to act like an adult if you're going to post on a Flames board.

Basically that exact same play happens about 200 times a game by every player on every team. It's called checking. Was Schieffle just dodging Tkachuk or did he also hear footsteps from Hannafin who was in the area.

More common is a player being checked turns to avoid it and ends up getting hit in the numbers and the hitter gets a penalty for simple momentum. Happens often.

[Johnhitbox]

It’s comments like this that makes me proud to be a flames fan.


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The injury was 30 per cent Tkachuk’s borderline dirty contact with Schiefle in a vulnerable position, 30 per cent Schiefle’s unwise reaction to that contact, and 40 per cent bad luck.

There was no dirty contact. None. He was trying to hit Scheifele with his ass (as he likes to do) and mostly missed him. Scheifele turned away from him. Just really unfortunate.