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Old 02-17-2021, 10:02 PM   #321
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A look at the postseason accomplishments of all the head coaches in the division since the 2005 rules as head coaches in North America:

Claude Julien
2011 NHL Playoffs (Won Stanley Cup)
2013 NHL playoffs (Lost SCF)
2014 NHL Playoffs (Lost 2nd Round)
2020 NHL Playoffs (Lost 1st Round, but won a qualifier round against a 5th place team)

Sheldon Keefe
2016 AHL Playoffs (Lost ECF)
2017 AHL playoffs (Lost 2nd Round)
2018 AHL Playoffs (Won Championship
2019 AHL Playoffs (Lost 3rd round)

DJ Smith
2013 CHL Playoffs (Lost Round 3)
2014 CHL Playoffs (Lost Round 2)
2015 CHL Playoffs (Won Championship)

Dave Tippett
2006 NHL Playoffs (lost 1st Round)
2007 NHL Playoffs (lost 1st Round)
2008 NHL Playoffs (lost WCF)
2010 NHL PLayoffs (lost 1st Round)
2011 NHL PLayoffs (lost 1st round)
2012 NHL Playoffs (lost WCF)

Travis Green
2013 WHL Championship (lost Memorial Cup)
2015 AHL Finalists (lost Final)
2020 NHL Playoffs (lost 2nd round, upset the defending champions)

Paul Maurice
2009 NHL playoffs (lost ECF)
2015 NHL Playoffs (Lost Round 1)
2018 NHL playoffs (lost WCF)
2019 NHL playoffs (lost round 1)

Geoff Ward
2020 NHL Playoffs (lost 1st round... but he won a qualifier round against a ninth place team missing its top two centers)
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:07 PM   #322
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I guess Claude Julien is the best coach in the division? Maurice probably has the most experience.

When is the last time the Flames had a head coach who then found another NHL head coaching job in the NHL? Darryl?

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Old 02-17-2021, 10:07 PM   #323
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It wouldn’t be so bad...if it wasn’t so predictable.

This was a bad hire on day 1. Never should have gotten the job.

I feel bad for Geoff Ward the person though. His dream job is not going well.

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Old 02-17-2021, 10:09 PM   #324
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It's been a long while since I've seen a coach this over his head in the NHL.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:09 PM   #325
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This guy was always in over his head. Amateur hour has lasted way too long. Urgent need for a change.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:10 PM   #326
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Ward sucked in the AHL for christ sakes
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:16 PM   #327
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I’m sure bringing in a 5th head coach for this core group of players will solve all of the issues.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:18 PM   #328
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I’m sure bringing in a 5th head coach for this core group of players will solve all of the issues.
It would only be this core's second NHL caliber head coach.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:18 PM   #329
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I’m sure bringing in a 5th head coach for this core group of players will solve all of the issues.
So you rather waste this season? Cause bringing in a vet coach might bring some damn life into this group. And yes the core can be gutted in the summer I’m totally fine with that.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:20 PM   #330
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I mean the guy won't even keep the Lucic-Bennett-Dube line intact. WTF?

Gotta keep mixin' up the lines until something sticks. And then when something sticks, mix up the lines again anyway.

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Geoff Ward's problem? Lack of individual preparation.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:23 PM   #332
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Ward sucked in the AHL for christ sakes
Coach of the year 02-03
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I’m sure bringing in a 5th head coach for this core group of players will solve all of the issues.
If BT isn't going to change the players, you may as well change the coach to see if that theory proves true. Nothing else to lose at this point because whatever hockey we're seeing right now, we've seen it since Ward took over in 2019.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:33 PM   #334
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Coach of the year 02-03
That was back when the rules still had a two line offside. I don't think other teams want to play that plodding style anymore, even if Ward does.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:35 PM   #335
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Look at that season though...it’ only because Julien was great.

Julien: 33-6-3-3 as head coach of the team that season

Ward: 16-13-5-1

And there lies the problem. Ward isn’t a good head coach, he has no ideas on how to tailor a system to his roster.

He’s trying to play the big, heavy hockey that Julien and him had success with in Boston. But that roster was built to play that way, this team is not at all.

Sure it’s working out great for Lucic because he’s comfortable in that system, but the rest of our forwards are lost

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You hire a coach to get results, not to be liked....
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:06 PM   #337
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Can we just do a poll?

Fire Ward or Keep Ward.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:17 PM   #338
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I'm so sick of hearing that this core kills coaches.

Hartley was fired out of nowhere, it was a product of Treliving thinking we were further ahead in the rebuild than we really were. The players did not do him in. There were rumors that some of the players didn't like him but you will find that on every sports team so not really news. It was well known that Hartley was only there to start the rebuild and was not in the plan to be there long term.

Gulutzan was an absolute mistake of a hire. Treliving has to wear that one. Heck, the 1988-89 flames may have missed the playoffs with him at the helm. The temperature of the board was cold toward this hire and it proved to be accurate.

Peters got them the 2nd best record in the NHL. He was hired after being the only one considered and did not have any real prior success in the NHL. But he was the only coach that had head coaching experience at the NHL level. Things were not good in the second year of Peters and with the incident, the hand was forced. The board was not thrilled about this hire, but gave him a chance. With Carolina letting him walk, lots of people questioned this hire and Carolina turned out better after he was gone.

Ward looks just as lost as Playfair did in 2006-2007. My opinion is that Ward's record bas been propped up by the talent of this team rather than the team killing his coaching.

You could argue that the players maybe helped Peters out of town (they were not the root cause) but the rest of the coaching changes have been errors in judgement by Treliving.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:31 PM   #339
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1362283482588700674

This may be the worst response I've ever seen from a head coach in the NHL.

Literally every sentence includes a common, overused hockey cliché that ultimately means nothing.

In a hundred words here, Ward has said absolutely nothing.
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