TSN: 2 teammates independently corroborate Akim Aliu's allegations against Peters

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by meh

Did BT say "you people" in his press address?
Oh oh.

Oh god, I hope this is a joke

There is nothing wrong with saying you people in this context...he is referring to the media

[Delthefunky]

Yeah, BT has done exactly the right thing here so far. Kudos to him, this is extremely delicate right now and I hope they can find the truth to this situation and then make the right decision.

[Caged Great]

If this is true, then there is only one acceptable course of action for the Calgary Flames. Peters cannot continue on as head coach of the team.

There has to be accountability for ones actions and saying that kind of language in any situation is not only uncalled for, but utterly reprehensible. That kind of person in no way should be affiliated with the Calgary Flames. It is especially ridiculous as the best and most beloved player in the entire franchise's history is Jarome Iginla. He helped significantly to reduce and eliminate this type of behaviour from all levels of hockey and make the game more inclusive for everyone. To have the coach of the team to be the absolute antithesis of what Iginla meant to hockey would be unacceptable and would be the biggest black eye to the organization ever.

If Peters did not do this, that is fine, carry on. If he did, he simply must be gone. Period.

Either way, it has been an ugly day for the organization, and hopefully this situation is rectified immediately. The longer this goes without a resolution, the worse it will become.

[Geeoff]

If this is true, Peters needs to GTFO. This is the house Jarome built!

[locsofblu]

The timing of this seems so fishy! Calgary wasnt about to fire another coach but this coming out after another road loss seems quite suspicious. I'm not in any way saying that this didn't happen but Babcock was fired what 5 6 days ago? and this allegation was ten plus years ago. So why tonight? Seems so bloody fishy.

[devo22]

^ Aliu has no horse in this race. He tweeted it during the game, it has nothing to do with the Flames struggles whatsoever.

[Snuffleupagus]

Just throwing this out there. 10 years ago just about every rap song contained the "N" word 50 times a song, I wonder if Peters was just frustrated hearing that crap in the dressing room and wanted this "N" words to stop and said get this "N" stuff out of the dressing room, as much as he might be a bad guy I just can't see him calling Aliu a "n****", I'm sure another player will enlighten us soon

[Aarongavey]

Has Peters denied it? I am assuming he has not, otherwise Sureloss would have likely updates the thread title.

I wonder how hard it is to come up with an appropriate way to say “I did not say that” if in fact he did not say it.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Just throwing this out there. 10 years ago just about every rap song contained the "N" word 50 times a song, I wonder if Peters was just frustrated hearing that crap in the dressing room and wanted this "N" words to stop and said get this "N" stuff out of the dressing room, as much as he might be a bad guy I just can't see him calling Aliu a "n****", I'm sure another player will enlighten us soon

That is still unacceptable and rap songs still have the N word in them.

[Split98]

I'm conflicted and curious to find out if this was a one-off and what the context was. 2008 is a long time ago, and while it's clearly words you never use I'm interested to hear how he's handled himself the 11 years since. If the context wasn't hate-based, is this 'apologize and move on' or can we never recover from this?

It's also tough to discredit Akim, but the allegations he's making stretch further than just the use of the word - which itself is a problem. First, the word was used at him - which is one big element to 'context' IMO. It absolutely doesn't make any other use right, but it's obviously a different allegation than him referring to the music.

But for me, the biggest allegation is this:
"And instead of remedying the situation, he wrote a letter to John McDonough and Stan Bowman to have me sent down to the ECHL."

If Peter's is so racist he sent an email to have him removed this will be corroborated. I can't imagine Peter's didn't want certain people on his team and verbally abused him without anyone else having witnessed it.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

The timing of this seems so fishy! Calgary wasnt about to fire another coach but this coming out after another road loss seems quite suspicious. I'm not in any way saying that this didn't happen but Babcock was fired what 5 6 days ago? and this allegation was ten plus years ago. So why tonight? Seems so bloody fishy.

Fishy how? It also came out mid game.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by zamler

Easy, barely an inconvenience. Blame your white privilege say you didn't realize the impact apologize and all is forgiven.

Originally Posted by dino7c

highly doubt it

I believe Zamler was referring to our current Prime Minister with his history of wearing blackface and brownface.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Split98

I'm conflicted and curious to find out if this was a one-off and what the context was. 2008 is a long time ago, and while it's clearly words you never use I'm interested to hear how he's handled himself the 11 years since. If the context wasn't hate-based, is this 'apologize and move on' or can we never recover from this?

It's also tough to discredit Akim, but the allegations he's making stretch further than just the use of the word - which itself is a problem. First, the word was used at him - which is one big element to 'context' IMO. It absolutely doesn't make any other use right, but it's obviously a different allegation than him referring to the music.

But for me, the biggest allegation is this:
"And instead of remedying the situation, he wrote a letter to John McDonough and Stan Bowman to have me sent down to the ECHL."

If Peter's is so racist he sent an email to have him removed this will be corroborated. I can't imagine Peter's didn't want certain people on his team and verbally abused him without anyone else having witnessed it.

This claim is just odd to me.

When do coaches in the A "write a letter" to the management of the club in regards to a player? Were there no phones way back in 2009?

Honestly, Bowman and Peters would have been in contact daily regarding all players and everything else going on with the Rockford team. Peters very well may have wanted Aliu off his team, but that could be for a variety of reasons. It certainly doesn't have to mean it was race based, though it also could be.

Lot's more information needs to be added to this thing before anyone makes a judgement on any actions to be taken. The one thing that has to happen soon though is Peters himself needs to speak and either deny things, add the context in which things were said or flat out admit he did what was alleged.

The complete silence is allowing this thing to get out of control. Though it is only early morning in Pennsylvania (or where ever they are at this point) the club has had enough time to make that happen.

[flamesfan55]

This kind of thing pisses me off for two reasons.

1. If this is true then Peters is a idiot and needs to go.

2. If this is true while on earth wait 10 years to say something. I will never understand peoples decision to not say something at the time.

[Harry Lime]

Split98,

I don't think that the allegation is that Aliu was sent down as a racist act. He was sent down because he objected to the abuse and it was punishment for standing against Peters actions. That means that the coach tried to destroy someone's career to salve his own ego.

Two different actions, and each deplorable. I wouldn't blend them together as racism, just because that could identify the incident as one act instead of a calculated second act.

If true.

[Wolfman]

Peters is as good as gone...times they are changing.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Keep posting, I think you're fixing it.

Take your own advice. You’re coming off worse than anyone you’re trying to make fun of.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Peters is as good as gone...times they are changing.

IF it can be verified or he admits to it you mean....right?

[Split98]

Originally Posted by transplant99

This claim is just odd to me.

When do coaches in the A "write a letter" to the management of the club in regards to a player? Were there no phones way back in 2009?

Honestly, Bowman and Peters would have been in contact daily regarding all players and everything else going on with the Rockford team. Peters very well may have wanted Aliu off his team, but that could be for a variety of reasons. It certainly doesn't have to mean it was race based, though it also could be.

Lot's more information needs to be added to this thing before anyone makes a judgement on any actions to be taken. The one thing that has to happen soon though is Peters himself needs to speak and either deny things, add the context in which things were said or flat out admit he did what was alleged.

The complete silence is allowing this thing to get out of control. Though it is only early morning in Pennsylvania (or where ever they are at this point) the club has had enough time to make that happen.

Probably an email, but writing a letter usually implies that this was a priority 1 issue for Peters to formalize his request - even if he is talking day-to-day. That's what stood out to me... there'll be a letter

The silence TBH is acceptable rn, I'd imagine this came as a pretty big blindside after the game. He probably didn't know anything about it until he finished talking to the team and Tre made it clear they weren't going to speak until they've looked into it. They have Akim's number, so I'd guess we'll see a comment from Akim or Bill today



Edit:

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Split98,

I don't think that the allegation is that Aliu was sent down as a racist act. He was sent down because he objected to the abuse and it was punishment for standing against Peters actions. That means that the coach tried to destroy someone's career to salve his own ego.

Two different actions, and each deplorable. I wouldn't blend them together as racism, just because that could identify the incident as one act instead of a calculated second act.

If true.

Sorry, didn't see this until I posted above. I took that mess of this post a different way

Dropped the N bomb several times towards me in the dressing room in my rookie year because he didn’t like my choice of music. First one to admit I rebelled against him. Wouldn’t you?
- Where is rebelling, but Peter's is dropping N-bombs 'several times' towards him in the dressing room? As in, this is an ongoing rebellion and N-bomb battle... of which there will obviously be tons of corroboration

Or, First one to admit I rebelled against him. Wouldn’t you? And instead of remedying the situation, he wrote a letter to John McDonough and Stan Bowman to have me sent down to the ECHL.
- Where he was rebelling against Peter's using the N-word and instead of apologizing wanted him sent down?


I really hope he's accusing him of the latter, but both are absolutely awful

[Split98]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

This kind of thing pisses me off for two reasons.

1. If this is true then Peters is a idiot and needs to go.

2. If this is true while on earth wait 10 years to say something. I will never understand peoples decision to not say something at the time.

There's tons of reasons people wait until they speak. Primarily, in this case, it was likely to keep a shot at having a career.