06-21-2018, 04:52 PM
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#321
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
Is there a reason people have such a hard-on for trading Hamilton? If it's not him, then it's Bennett. Two guys I want going nowhere unless it's a ridiculous overpay.
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It's usually Bennett and Brodie, two guys who are perceived to have potential but aren't realizing it with the Flames, i.e. assets whose value might be higher than their performance.
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06-21-2018, 04:53 PM
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#322
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First Line Centre
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There is no point in making a trade just to over pay for an RW. Honestly we might be better off just trying Bennett or foo or ferkland until something sticks. That has better value than opening up a hole on d which we likely can’t fill until next offseason
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06-21-2018, 04:58 PM
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#323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Psytic
Is he better though?
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If Brouwer starts the season not on the top poweplay unit and Hamilton not on the 2nd unit he's already one step ahead of Gulutzan without even having to break a sweat.
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06-21-2018, 04:59 PM
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#324
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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If we're gonna trade a top D man, I'd much rather it be Brodie. Hamilton still has way too much upside. If they do end up trading him, the return better be worth it. Like legit top 6 RW worth it.
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06-21-2018, 05:01 PM
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#325
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kelowna
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The last thing we would want is something where Carolina flipped Hamilton to Edmonton for Puljujarvi. I think if we make the trade it needs to be Brodie+
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06-21-2018, 06:05 PM
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#326
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
If Brouwer starts the season not on the top poweplay unit and Hamilton not on the 2nd unit he's already one step ahead of Gulutzan without even having to break a sweat.
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Brouwer on the powerplay wasn’t even GG’s most baffling lineup choice.
He came into his first season thinking Grossman was a good partner for Hamilton and that Wideman should be on the top pairing with Giordano.
But apparently Peters is a huge fan on juggling his lineups game to game, whereas GG would stick with something that clearly wasn’t working for an excessive amount of time.
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06-21-2018, 06:13 PM
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#327
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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per Lebrun, Lindhom is asking for north of $5 mil per. Canes only offering north of $4 mil per. If he does not sign, Dundon has ordered Wadell to trade Lindholm. Flames remain interested but a number of other teams are watching the situation.
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06-21-2018, 06:17 PM
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#328
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
per Lebrun, Lindhom is asking for north of $5 mil per. Canes only offering north of $4 mil per. If he does not sign, Dundon has ordered Wadell to trade Lindholm. Flames remain interested but so do a number of other teams.
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North of $5M? Uhhhhh.
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06-21-2018, 06:19 PM
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#329
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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I initially thought these rumours seemed strange as both teams have a surplus of defence and need offence. After some thought it might work though with the Flames having cap space to pay the Canes RFAs and the Canes likely looking for players locked up at a reasonable salary like Hamilton.
Bring on the draft and trades already!
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06-21-2018, 06:19 PM
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#330
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Thats the asking price of a player that doesn't want to stay
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06-21-2018, 06:23 PM
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#331
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Lindholm @ 5 isn't that high. Still not cheap
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06-21-2018, 06:24 PM
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#332
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Franchise Player
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north of 5 million?
doesn't that seem a bit high based on what this kid has done...?
hopefully that's an exaggeration or just an negotiating ploy
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06-21-2018, 06:24 PM
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#333
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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5x5 or 6x5 and it'll be a value contract. by year three.
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06-21-2018, 06:26 PM
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#334
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
north of 5 million?
doesn't that seem a bit high based on what this kid has done...?
hopefully that's an exaggeration or just an negotiating ploy
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He's a centre/right wing who has 4 straight 40 pt season (39, 39, 45, 44) while being strong in the face-off circle.
He's worth 5M - and I'd happily give him an 8 year, $40M-$43M contract.
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06-21-2018, 06:28 PM
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#335
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
5x5 or 6x5 and it'll be a value contract. by year three.
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Yip. Makes more sense to give that contract to lindholm than risk another Brouwer type situation in free agency.
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06-21-2018, 06:30 PM
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#336
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Franchise Player
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Kinda similar to the Hamilton situation when he was in Boston? Maybe doesn't want to stay there?
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06-21-2018, 06:34 PM
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#337
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
Kinda similar to the Hamilton situation when he was in Boston? Maybe doesn't want to stay there?
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if carolina's offer of 4 is accurate, you could say the same thing about Carolina wanting him to stay
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06-21-2018, 06:41 PM
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#338
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
^You do realize that Keith (Giordano) is still good while Seabrook (Brodie) is pretty much terrible now, right? Not the best analogy to throw out there. We can't make lines based on what worked 3 or 4 years ago. We have to work with what is happening right now.
In any scenario where Hamilton is traded, I'd love to see Giordano with Hamonic as a top pair.
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So maybe the genius all along was to keep them separate.
Gulutzan, you sly dog.
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06-21-2018, 06:41 PM
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#339
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Keep in mind we don't know how many UFA years are being bought in LeBrun's report. Lindholm is 2 years away from UFA.
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06-21-2018, 06:42 PM
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#340
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Keep in mind we don't know how many UFA years are being bought in LeBrun's report. Lindholm is 2 years away from UFA.
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2? at 23 years old?
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