Calgarypuck Moderator Team

[SportsJunky]

Way to look inward MarkGio.

[IgiTang]

The only place I think the Mods could improve on is tempering the aggressiveness between posters and deter the masses from aggressively piling on the unpopular opinion. But that’s subjective and tough to do, unfortunately. A bit of it is the community’s responsibility to refrain as I have been trying to learn over the years.

Kudos to those who put in the time to moderate CP.

As for the piling on, this is where a no thanks button could be useful. Instead of someone like me trying to articulate a opposite opinion and failing miserably, I could just hit the no thanks button. But that in itself could be a form of piling on as well...

Tough job indeed. Thanks again for your efforts mods.

[Greybeard]

Enjoy CP a bunch. BUT the way some people degrade others opinions and personally attack them with insults and name calling is offensive and in a schoolyard or workplace would be bullying and not tolerated. I know it’s difficult to curtail this behaviour but I would enjoy CP much more if posters shared and argued their opinions without getting personal. I think the mods do a great job, appreciate this forum a bunch, and would be happy with the mods taking a slightly harder stance on over the top personal attacks.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

In over a decade here (holy crap!) I have managed to only run afoul of the mod team once and that was for posting a ticket thread in the wrong forum. I personally think the moderation here has been fair and relatively unbiased. Hell, if AlbertaOiler can continue posting his tripe here, that speaks to the level of restraint these volunteers are showing.

Big Kudos to the mod team.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by zamler

I have nothing useful to contribute.

Spoiler!

You, sir, are a g@#$%^&n liar!

That was an epic contribution!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

To be honest, discussion is one thing, but a moderator's job should be to foster and enforce healthy and constructive discussion. When moderator's join this extremist perspective, I question if they are the right fit for the role. A leader should be the best of the group, especially when tasked with enforcement and judiciary duties of site rules. When moderator's themselves cannot see that not every fan fits this homer narrative, then it's clear they're not leaders in healthy discussion. When illogical insults are not deleted, it's safe to assume the moderator's accept it themselves.

I cannot assume that it's the fault of the moderators though. It could be site mandate to make this a place where critics are disciplined, whether administratively or socially. Therefore I simply don't engage anymore. I do, however, emplor all of you to examine yourselves and question whether a sport played by the extreme wealthy that is irrelevant to your own lives is worth lowering yourselves to the behaviour of children with pety insults and attacks on a benign screen in front of anonymous strangers.

I found these comments to be very interesting. I won't get into specifics, but you're complaining about the exact thing that you yourself have been guilty of in the past.

I agree insults are not helpful to the site at all. That's why self-moderation would be very helpful to everyone. Before you submit a post re-read it and make sure you want to send it. If you think there's a chance the post could be insulting to somebody else.......it probably is.

And I cannot stress it enough: if you see something you think we should look at please use the report button so we can see it. We do not read every single post on the site. If something isn't edited or deleted it's not necessarily because we condone the post or that we don't care, it's more than likely because we are simply not aware of it.

So if everyone made sure they were not insulting anyone and reported posts they thought we should look at it would be very, very helpful. Thanks!

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

The only place I think the Mods could improve on is tempering the aggressiveness between posters and deter the masses from aggressively piling on the unpopular opinion. But that’s subjective and tough to do, unfortunately. A bit of it is the community’s responsibility to refrain as I have been trying to learn over the years.

Kudos to those who put in the time to moderate CP.

As for the piling on, this is where a no thanks button could be useful. Instead of someone like me trying to articulate a opposite opinion and failing miserably, I could just hit the no thanks button. But that in itself could be a form of piling on as well...

Tough job indeed. Thanks again for your efforts mods.

This is an interesting idea eliminating the need to pile on but instead just click dislike. A sort of barometer, or gauge for posters to see that the majority might not approve of a certain behavior. In addition it could free up mods time by the simple fact that it is somewhat self moderating. Taken a step further mods could have access to the numbers of dislikes attributed to certain posters allowing them to review single, or accumulative posts leading to an appropriate course of action.

Nice to have a sports forum where the owner and mods care about the customer experience.

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I too question everything, sometimes even my existence, when I see a string of terrible buns.

fyp

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I found these comments to be very interesting. I won't get into specifics, but you're complaining about the exact thing that you yourself have been guilty of in the past.

I agree insults are not helpful to the site at all. That's why self-moderation would be very helpful to everyone. Before you submit a post re-read it and make sure you want to send it. If you think there's a chance the post could be insulting to somebody else.......it probably is.

And I cannot stress it enough: if you see something you think we should look at please use the report button so we can see it. We do not read every single post on the site. If something isn't edited or deleted it's not necessarily because we condone the post or that we don't care, it's more than likely because we are simply not aware of it.

So if everyone made sure they were not insulting anyone and reported posts they thought we should look at it would be very, very helpful. Thanks!

Here's the thing, when moderating is non-existent, posters have to find their own ways to adjust, manipulate, or alleviate the behavior of others. If you're not going to discipline those who initiate insults towards me, I have to try to find a way to do it myself; usually in the form of the only negative reinforcement tool available to me.

Or when moderating is inconsistent, users get confused as to what rules are acceptable, mildly acceptable, or typically acceptable but pure bad luck if receiving an infraction.

It is not common that I have insulted people first. It's usually after I read an unnecessary message towards me do I lower myself to having to moderate in the only form available to me. I have used the report tool - it yields no results. I've messaged Mods and I often don't receive replies.

I get I'm not popular among the mods, likely due to the type of fan I am -- one who can criticize the things I see about the hockey team without it affecting my like towards the team. But its not fair to call me out just because you don't like me. That's not leadership.

[saskflames69]

I just wanna say, when I first came here I was an annoying little snot-nosed teenager who frankly deserved the ban hammer on more than one occasion.

That being said, it's been 6 years and I'm still allowed to post here. I'd say the moderation team here has done a fantastic job.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Here's the thing, when moderating is non-existent, posters have to find their own ways to adjust, manipulate, or alleviate the behavior of others. If you're not going to discipline those who initiate insults towards me, I have to try to find a way to do it myself; usually in the form of the only negative reinforcement tool available to me.

Or when moderating is inconsistent, users get confused as to what rules are acceptable, mildly acceptable, or typically acceptable but pure bad luck if receiving an infraction.

It is not common that I have insulted people first. It's usually after I read an unnecessary message towards me do I lower myself to having to moderate in the only form available to me. I have used the report tool - it yields no results. I've messaged Mods and I often don't receive replies.

I get I'm not popular among the mods, likely due to the type of fan I am -- one who can criticize the things I see about the hockey team without it affecting my like towards the team. But its not fair to call me out just because you don't like me. That's not leadership.

You’ve used the report tool twice in your entire time here...neither time because someone was insulting you.
And you think we don’t like you because you criticize the team? We have no opinion of you, let alone because of what you say about the team. I sincerely could not have guessed if you were generally negative or positive about the team. We have far better things to do then sit around and talk about who we like and don’t like. This ain’t high school.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

You’ve used the report tool twice in your entire time here...neither time because someone was insulting you.

If you are in fact a moderator (and I truly have no idea if you are) this comment is something of a breach of trust. In no way should an individual's activities be discussed publicly. I have spent 40+ years in management and on boards of directors of not-for-profits and have had to endure many, many public queries about "why something was done" to an an individual. In all cases, the answer is to defer such questions on the grounds that the transactions between individuals and management (or mods in this case) are private. Period.

Originally Posted by Wild GM

And you think we don’t like you because you criticize the team? We have no opinion of you, let alone because of what you say about the team. I sincerely could not have guessed if you were generally negative or positive about the team. We have far better things to do then sit around and talk about who we like and don’t like. This ain’t high school.

This is somewhat gratuitous, but at least on the right track, though it seems slightly passive-aggressive to me.

Don't take it personally Mods -- I don't think anyone here is attacking you or really denigrating the work you do. The tenor of the requests seems to be to use better discretion and a more even-handed approach. Neither of these is unreasonable. You don't need to engage - read, think, evaluate, discuss among yourselves. Comment in a thoughtful and respectful way if you're going to comment at all.

And, I return to my earlier comment: It's Bingo's board and he can run it the way he pleases. So everything here is really just a suggestion and everyone here is a guest, hosted at his pleasure.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

If you are in fact a moderator (and I truly have no idea if you are) this comment is something of a breach of trust. In no way should an individual's activities be discussed publicly. I have spent 40+ years in management and on boards of directors of not-for-profits and have had to endure many, many public queries about "why something was done" to an an individual. In all cases, the answer is to defer such questions on the grounds that the transactions between individuals and management (or mods in this case) are private. Period.

It's a hockey forum dude, not a Fortune 500 company. The poster said he used the report button and didn't get a response, Wild GM responded.

[memphusk]

The problem isn't the site, the people on it, or the moderators. It's the mentality of people as a whole. This is what the world is now. 1st world problems. People would argue over beer and fists 15 years ago. Now they just use their thumbs.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I have used the report tool - it yields no results. I've messaged Mods and I often don't receive replies.

I have used the report tool on occasion and have gotten results. Also, anytime i've had questions the mods have replied in a timely fashion. The picture you paint of the mods is simply not true. They do the best they can and from i've read people are thankful for the work they do.

[Samonadreau]

One of the first times I posted I was belittled by a Mod for no good reason. I have tough skin and wasn't too butt hurt about it but it's one of the reasons I try to stay open minded with new posters or posters without tons of little red blocks and would hope all mods do the same.

Other than that no issues and appreciate the site.

[Jiri Hrdina]

IF people are going to misrepresent facts about how we mod I will respond to correct. He opened the door

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

It's a hockey forum dude, not a Fortune 500 company. The poster said he used the report button and didn't get a response, Wild GM responded.

Disclosing such a thing publicly is crossing the line IMO. And if you don't think so then disclose this info for every person here.

It doesn't matter if someone "opened the door" that's no excuse I still see it as poor form.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by zamler

Disclosing such a thing publicly is crossing the line IMO. And if you don't think so then disclose this info for every person here.

It doesn't matter if someone "opened the door" that's no excuse I still see it as poor form.

I didn’t disclose anything except how often he has used the report button.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Here's the thing, when moderating is non-existent, posters have to find their own ways to adjust, manipulate, or alleviate the behavior of others. If you're not going to discipline those who initiate insults towards me, I have to try to find a way to do it myself; usually in the form of the only negative reinforcement tool available to me.

Or when moderating is inconsistent, users get confused as to what rules are acceptable, mildly acceptable, or typically acceptable but pure bad luck if receiving an infraction.

It is not common that I have insulted people first. It's usually after I read an unnecessary message towards me do I lower myself to having to moderate in the only form available to me. I have used the report tool - it yields no results. I've messaged Mods and I often don't receive replies.

I get I'm not popular among the mods, likely due to the type of fan I am -- one who can criticize the things I see about the hockey team without it affecting my like towards the team. But its not fair to call me out just because you don't like me. That's not leadership.

Considering the fact that you think the series of puns in the Mangiapane thread were actually people bickering, I’m going to guess that a lot of the insults you feel were inflicted on you are also you misreading the situation. Before you decide you need to retaliate to an ‘unnecessary message’, maybe try rereading it and see if maybe you’re not adding tone and intent to a post that isn’t there.