[Rumour] Travis Hamonic requests trade. Western Canada preferred destination

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

I disagree, As much as Gio is a leader on this team, last year was more the exception and not the norm when it comes to his production and value to this team.

The window for winning for the Flames is still 2-3 years out. trading Gio's contract for a 25 yr old bonafide top 4 on a great contract that fits that window is definitely something the flames should be doing.

Have we learned nothing from the Iginla scenario. Keeping players past their prime when the rest of the team isn't ready is counter productive to building a winning team.

the 3 million we are saving can go towards upgrading our goaltending situation (hopefuly)

Were you of the opinion that we should have never signed that contract?

The optics of trading Gio right now are so bad I can't see the Flames doing it. I am honestly not totally against the idea of trading Gio for Hamonic but I want a fairly decent + included. 1 for 1 that deal is a huge win for the Isles including age of both players.

I just don't see any way the Flamea brass even contemplates it. Treliving praised Gio as being the pulse of the team. Burke puts Gio on the same level as Pronger when it comes to leadership.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by saillias

Well you're doubling down which is ok but it's pretty obvious to most I think that Strome is not more valuable than Bennett. His value is about Baertschi.

What? You know that Strome had 50 points in the NHL last year right? His value is significantly higher than Baertschi.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by saillias

Well you're doubling down which is ok but it's pretty obvious to most I think that Strome is not more valuable than Bennett. His value is about Baertschi.

LOL.

It's okay to disagree but lets not get completely bonkers.

Strome has proven more to date in the NHL than Bennett has, despite his struggles this year. Bennett has had 10-15 games where he looked really good and about the same amount where he was a non factor. I like his potential as much as anyone but maybe it's okay to take those flame colored glasses off once in a while?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

LOL.

It's okay to disagree but lets not get completely bonkers.

Strome has proven more to date in the NHL than Bennett has, despite his struggles this year. Bennett has had 10-15 games where he looked really good and about the same amount where he was a non factor. I like his potential as much as anyone but maybe it's okay to take those flame colored glasses off once in a while?

LOL

When Strome was the same age as Bennett is now he was in junior while Bennett is top 6 in the NHL. Strome hit 50pts as a 21 year old Bennett could do it as a 19 year old.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by codynw

What? You know that Strome had 50 points in the NHL last year right? His value is significantly higher than Baertschi.

Maybe we can get Strome for a 2nd? It's his last chance before he goes to Europe but it's totally low risk/high reward.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

LOL

When Strome was the same age as Bennett is now he was in junior while Bennett is top 6 in the NHL. Strome hit 50pts as a 21 year old Bennett could do it as a 19 year old.

Yes, he COULD do a lot of things. Maybe he could even do things that Strome has already done... who knows? I can't tell the future, but maybe you can.

Who cares where Strome was when he was 19? Neither here nor there...

[Poe969]

So does Strome want out too or is this just another huge derailment????


If Hamonic said he'd play out the year there, I'd be really surprised to see him moved this season.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So does Strome want out too or is this just another huge derailment????


If Hamonic said he'd play out the year there, I'd be really surprised to see him moved this season.

It's because multiple posters want to attach him to a Hamonic trade like he is a sweetener or an add on.

[FBI]

Let's not be selling Bennett short just because we are flames fans..

[adc]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The team has won 1 more game than it's lost. We're not exactly talking about the 2002 Red Wings here.

Strome's demotion had nothing to do with the team he was on, it had everything to do with his play. He's 22 years old and hasn't truly broken out in the NHL. He's certainly not more valuable than the established Brodie or Hamonic.

He scored 50 points in the NHL last year and that is not good enough for you to qualify as s break out?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by adc

He scored 50 points in the NHL last year and that is not good enough for you to qualify as s break out?

In the context of being more valuable than Brodie or Hamonic? Yes, absolutely. We're talking about a 22 year old who isn't even in the NHL today because Steve Bernier outplayed him for a spot in the lineup. I would also say Brodie only "broke out" a year or so ago when he started to draw attention as a top young defender in the league.

He's a great 'prospect', but he still has a long ways to go before we start saying he has more value than Brodie.

[Hackey]

I'd definitely be open to trading Gio if he could be packaged to land us a couple young guys like Hamonic and Strome or Barzal but seems a bit unlikely the Islanders would want to give up young talent and seems unlikely the Flames would want to trade the captain at this point.

[Husky]

Both Hamonic and Strome would be amazing to land. A young group to develop.

F - Gadreau, Monohan, Bennett, Strome, Jankowski
D - Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic
G - Gillies

Plus a top prospect for our 1st next year.

Besides those pieces above, I would move anything to land Hamonic and/or Strome from our system.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by adc

He scored 50 points in the NHL last year and that is not good enough for you to qualify as s break out?

It is surprising, but there are obviously issues if they have him in the AHL to start after a 21 year old season like that.

As much as those are "breakout" numbers, he's not even with the big club right now. I don't think you can classify him as such if that's the case.

[sureLoss]

Frank Seravalli thinks Minnesota can offer the best package that will include Dumba.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Frank Seravalli thinks Minnesota can offer the best package that will include Dumba.

If the asking price is that steep, Do Not Want.

We have a glut of solid d-man prospects at the moment and we only really need 1 or 2 of them to be capable of playing middle pairing minutes.

Hamonic would be a nice add, but I fail to see why we need to do this.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

We have a glut of solid d-man prospects at the moment and we only really need 1 or 2 of them to be capable of playing middle pairing minutes.

Errr.... We have two prospects that I'd fit into that category. The rest look like tweeners.

[Toonage]

Way off topic: Matt Dumba needs to wear #55 (again)

Dumba55

Back on topic. Calgary isn't getting Hamonic. If they do, I'll eat a big plate of delicious food.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Yes, he COULD do a lot of things. Maybe he could even do things that Strome has already done... who knows? I can't tell the future, but maybe you can.

Who cares where Strome was when he was 19? Neither here nor there...

I think your argument is based on Strome being more valuable than Bennett because he has proven more. My point is that Bennett is far ahead of where Strome was at the same age. Bennett was the top prospect going into the 2014 draft by central scouting which believe it or not is paid to watch players and predict their future.

Look I agree that Strome has way way more value than Sven but he is not on the level of Bennett just because he scored 50pts when he is 2 years older than Bennett is today. Bennett is on pace for over 40pts right now and getting better every game.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Husky

Both Hamonic and Strome would be amazing to land. A young group to develop.

F - Gadreau, Monohan, Bennett, Strome, Jankowski
D - Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic
G - Gillies

Plus a top prospect for our 1st next year.

Besides those pieces above, I would move anything to land Hamonic and/or Strome from our system.

If your not moving one of if not two of Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, Brodie, Hamilton you are not getting Hamonic and Strome.

I can't see a likely deal for one of those two that doesn't involve one of the 5 Flames mentioned as much as I hope they would do a Hamonic for Gio deal.