Jian Ghomeshi no longer with CBC

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Buster

Why does consent have to have reasonable limits?

I find it troubling that the Supreme Court can determine our own decisions on our own bodies (in the absence of provable mental illness). Perhaps a "women's body is her own" only applies to certain policies? But when those choices offend our delicate sensibilities (prostitution or rough sex), then the SC should step in to save us all.

But there is a long list of things that the supreme court decide with which I disagree.

I would assume the very reason that two hockey pugilists are not charged is because of consent. And yet, despite clearly damaging behaviour related to contact sports and hockey fighting, the SC is silent.

(euthanasia would be another example where consent to harm oneself should be permitted, but that's another thread for another day.)

There always needs to be limits. Nothing is black and white or 100% one way or the other. How about if one pugilist knocks out the other and than picks him up and hits him again? They've both consented to fight but there is a degree to what lengths each can expect the other to go. Also I believe some people need to be protected from themselves as they may not be in position to make reasonable choices.

[taco.vidal]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jian-gh...-ago-1.2817582

Jian Ghomeshi allegedly attacked another woman more than 10 years ago
Woman speaks anonymously to CBC's As It Happens about alleged attack

A woman claims former CBC host Jian Ghomeshi attacked her without her consent on a date about a decade ago, following similar allegations by other women published by the Toronto Star.

The woman, who spoke anonymously with CBC Radio's As It Happens and is not one of the women who spoke with the Star, said she met Ghomeshi more than 10 years ago at a media holiday party and spent time alone with him at least twice.

Jian Ghomeshi, host of Q, no longer with CBC
She alleges he once grabbed her hair and threw her head back and, during a second encounter, in his living room, also punched her in the head repeatedly with closed fists.

She told As It Happens that she couldn't remember whether or not she told Ghomeshi during the first encounter that she didn't like what he was doing.

In the second encounter, she cried and Ghomeshi told her she needed to leave.

She said she did not seek medical attention after the incidents because she wasn't bleeding.

She did not file any official complaints.

[J epworth]

Jesse Brown ‏@JesseBrown 1m1 minute ago BREAKING IN MOMENTS: 8 women now accuse #jianghomeshi, one on the record. My investigation w/ @_kevindonovan

[ExiledFlamesFan]

It was just a matter of time.

[jschick88]

Michael Cooke ‏@TorStarEditor 16s
#JianGhomeshi Lucy DeCoutere, "Lucy on Trailer Park Boys", says she was choked and beaten.

[chemgear]

Is this going to turn out like Rob Ford? Remember how "some" people thought that there was no way he did drugs, said stupid crap or used city resources for personal use?

[ExiledFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Is this going to turn out like Rob Ford? Remember how "some" people thought that there was no way he did drugs, said stupid crap or used city resources for personal use?

Rob should have taken the Jian strategy and got ahead of the story by posting a Facebook manifesto when he knew the story would soon surface.

"So I like to smoke crack. It's not as bad as people think. I never smoke during office hours, only on weekends"

[vennegoor of hesselink]

http://www.thestar.com/news/2014/10/...ress_says.html

the Toronto star report on Lucy and Jian

[troutman]

I have a feeling Jian will kill himself now.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Michael Cooke ‏@TorStarEditor 16s
#JianGhomeshi Lucy DeCoutere, "Lucy on Trailer Park Boys", says she was choked and beaten.

haha what? No. Seriously?

Poor woman just can't find a good man in her life.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Michael Cooke ‏@TorStarEditor 16s
#JianGhomeshi Lucy DeCoutere, "Lucy on Trailer Park Boys", says she was choked and beaten.

She just posted this the other day, I guess she took her own advice:

ucy decoutere @lucydecoutere · Oct 27 Why are women afraid to attach their names to the #JianGhomeshi situation?

[J epworth]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014...arassment.html

One of the women, popular Canadian television actor Lucy DeCoutere, has agreed to be identified. DeCoutere, who plays Lucy on Trailer Park Boys, recalls an incident in 2003 when she alleges Ghomeshi, without warning or consent, choked her to the point she could not breathe and then slapped her hard three times on the side of her head.

“He did not ask if I was into it. It was never a question. It was shocking to me. The men I have spent time with are loving people,” said DeCoutere, who, when she is not acting on the television show, is a captain in the Royal Canadian Air Force in New Brunswick

[taco.vidal]

Jian might be seeing the inside of the courtroom more than just for his lawsuit against CBC by the time this is over.

[kipperiggy]

Wow, did not realize that there was someone willing to be named.

An interesting read which basically tells us to ask ourselves: why are we so quick to try and disprove what victims say, and so quick to believe improbable excuses from the accused.

http://damemagazine.com/2014/10/28/h....egKnNxHe.gbpl

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by troutman

I have a feeling Jian will kill himself now.

File under people I didn't expect that from

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

File under people I didn't expect that from

Yeah, that was unusually dark.

Trout must be working late and drunk on the fumes of midnight oil (the band).

[photon]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

An interesting read which basically tells us to ask ourselves: why are we so quick to try and disprove what victims say, and so quick to believe improbable excuses from the accused.

Our brains are hard wired to do it, there's been studies about it... the more innocent the victim seems, the harder we need to believe the victim is actually wrong or at fault, otherwise we feel vulnerable; if it can happen to them it can happen to me.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

File under people I didn't expect that from

Didn't mean to be insensitive or make light of the situation. This man is in a heap of trouble.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by troutman

Didn't mean to be insensitive or make light of the situation. This man is in a heap of trouble.

I wonder if he punches and chokes himself to death.

[burn_this_city]

Erotic asphyxiation seems most probable.