Which non-Flames UFAs do we target?

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I'd much rather Iggy come back when the rebuild is about complete, assuming we cycle a UFA Right Winger in & out those years until then.

If he doesn't win the Cup with Boston by then, what a fairy tale it would be to come home to Calgary and finally hoist it with our new core. You just know the first person he'd hand it off to is Gelinas too.

Iggy is part of the past and this is no time for nostalgia. He's slowed down too much to be part of anything but a really good team where he can play the role Brett Hull had at the end: shooter only. His linemates will have to pick up the skating and checking slack. If we want Iggy back it's much better to have him back in a P.R. role once he retires.

[darthma]

Steve Ott. According to the search function, he hasn't been mentioned at all in the 17 pages. You're not going to win the cup with this guy, but he's a leader, a good teammate, big competitor, and importantly, doesn't take up a top line roster spot. His price is 2.95 mill right now. Honestly, I just want a few vets that compete hard. They don't have to be top-6 players, but you have to fill the roster and reach the cap floor.

[FlamesAddiction]

Jack Skille (RW)

• One of the younger free agents available. Once a highly regarded prospect. A low-risk, potentially high reward project. The worst case scenario would be that the farm would have a ppg player, and we could have some call-up depth.

Devin Setoguchi (RW)

• From S. Alberta. Some have questioned his drive this year, but perhaps coming "home" and playing for a new coach could cure that. Decently skilled and not a push over. Still young enough to be part of the solution. Given that he isn't coming off a strong year, maybe he would accept a short term deal

Emil Garipov (G)

• Highly regarded undrafted KHL goalie. Will only be 23 later this summer. Perhaps a little redundant with Ortio at a similar level and age, but a free asset is never a bad thing. Still young enough to be a prospect. I know people cringe at the "best player outside the NHL" thing, but Ramo seemed to have turned into a decent asset and Berra ended up getting us something. (I am not 100% if he is a free agent or still draft eligible).

Jaromir Jagr (RW)

• He seems to be in mercenary mode and would probably be a lot of fun to have around for a year. If he is in it for the money and values being a mentor for young players, I could see him taking the job. The only caveat would be that he wouldn't be opposed to being traded at the deadline if need be.

[CliffFletcher]

No love for Michalek? The guy addresses two needs - size (6'2" 227 lbs) and scoring. Fast, plays a two-way game. And he's only 29.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Jack Skille (RW)

• One of the younger free agents available. Once a highly regarded prospect. A low-risk, potentially high reward project. The worst case scenario would be that the farm would have a ppg player, and we could have some call-up depth.

Devin Setoguchi (RW)

• From S. Alberta. Some have questioned his drive this year, but perhaps coming "home" and playing for a new coach could cure that. Decently skilled and not a push over. Still young enough to be part of the solution. Given that he isn't coming off a strong year, maybe he would accept a short term deal

Setoguchi has proven that his 30 goal 60 point rookie season is an outlier. He's now a disappointment with his third team. What you see is what you get.

Skille is a 4th line/spare forward guy. Didn't do much in Chicago or with more chances in Florida or Columbus. 53 points in 194 games.

No thanks on either.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

No love for Michalek? The guy addresses two needs - size (6'2" 227 lbs) and scoring. Fast, plays a two-way game. And he's only 29.

I'd like him on our team as well... Is there a chance that he can switch to the RW due to the excess of LWers we have already?

Him being a LW is pretty much the only downside.

[Poe969]

Jagr makes the most sense for the Flames but I'm not sure he'd want to sign here, he could be the kind of player/assistant coach that could really help this teams prospects. Steve Ott for sure! Even if we aren't good, he'd make sure that other teams hated to play against us. He's a good leader and seems like a good guy. Michalek would be good too, I wouldn't mind if we traded Hudler and went after this guy but not if we kept them both as I'd like to see our prospects make the team. Niskanen would be amazing too as he'd be one of our leaders on the back end but that would depend on if we could move Wideman. In net, if we try to get anyone I hope it's a young goalie who has something to prove as we're already fairly set in that position.

I would over pay HUGE for 1 year deals on any of these guys and wouldn't offer more than 3 year deals.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

No love for Michalek? The guy addresses two needs - size (6'2" 227 lbs) and scoring. Fast, plays a two-way game. And he's only 29.

I like, but I doubt that he is interested in going to a rebuilding team at his age.

[getbak]

Based on comments made by both Chiarelli and Iginla, it sounds like the only reason he hasn't already signed an extension with the Bruins is that they don't have tagging room on the cap for next season.

Obviously, nothing is finalized until the contract is filed with the league, but I suspect Iginla's signing with the Bruins will be one of the first deals announced on July 1.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I like, but I doubt that he is interested in going to a rebuilding team at his age.

At his age, he's got a choice to make: a contender is going to give him less money than a rebuilding team will. If he's truly motivated to win a championship he'll obviously go to the best team he can, and take fewer dollars, but I think a convincing argument could be made for picking a rebuilding team on the upswing and hope that at some point during the contract life, they figure it out. If not, they'll just trade him to a contender anyway when the deal's about to expire.

[dammage79]

Are we talking about Milan Michalek? I'd honestly hope the Flames do not sign him. Not because I don't like him or think he is a terrible player, but because he is made of glass. Sure he has the size, but he also misses a good chunk of games every year. That and the guy is super streaky.

The Flames already have a player made of glass in David Jones.

I suppose it gives the kids a decent amount of games to get called up to play but meh. I can take a pass on Michalek.

[Hank Hill]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

No love for Michalek? The guy addresses two needs - size (6'2" 227 lbs) and scoring. Fast, plays a two-way game. And he's only 29.

I wouldn't call him fast anymore, all those injuries are catching up to him.

[chanimal40]

I hope that this organization has the class to bring back Iginla so he can play the rest of his career out in Calgary. Just a dream.

Devin Setoguchi would be a good addition also as he is from Alberta.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by chanimal40

I hope that this organization has the class to bring back Iginla so he can play the rest of his career out in Calgary. Just a dream.

Devin Setoguchi would be a good addition also as he is from Alberta.

Wow, if the organization hasn't done enough for Iginla already? Takes two to tango. I doubt he has any desire to come back right now, he's enjoying winning! This team is not winning for another couple of years. Plus Calgary doesn't need a locker room distraction right now. Iggy pretty only comes back when this team is winning again and has others leading this team or his last NHL year.

[FlameZilla]

This whole 'Cap Floor' issue isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

The Salary Cap is going to be around $71 million, and the Salary Floor closer to $52 million.

We have about $43 million currently on the books for next year, so Burke has to find $9 million worth of salary from our RFAs, UFAs and non-Flame UFAs.

RFAs: Colborne, Bouma, Byron, Galiardi, Billins & Cundari
Flame UFAs: Cammalleri, Butler, MacDonald & Westgarth

Absolutely need to sign a capable back-up so that Ortio can continue to get big-game minutes in the AHL.

Need top 6 RW with a bit of size.

I would raid the Jets for Setoguchi and Al Montoya.

Devin Setoguchi could be top 6 on this team and wouldn't be as likely to float with Hartley badgering him to work harder. 4 years at $3 million would be more than enough to land him.

Montoya is a great backup & still has the potential to be a starter. 1a/1b arrangements work well with Ramo, who might not be ready to take on a Kipper-sized workload yet. 4 years at $2.5 million should do for Al.

It would still leave us short of the cap if all our UFAs walk. Butler could re-sign for $2.5 million AAV and Colborne, Bouma & Byron could each be re-upped for $1 million (average) & I think we'd make the floor with one more minor signing. Worst case scenario is we keep $2 million man S.O.B. in the pressbox all year.

For the stated reasons I don't think it'd be wise to chuck loads of insane money at Jagr and Heatley, just for the sake of making the Cap Floor. I hope any signings are completed for hockey reasons alone.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by chanimal40

I hope that this organization has the class to bring back Iginla so he can play the rest of his career out in Calgary. Just a dream.

Devin Setoguchi would be a good addition also as he is from Alberta.

Because someone is from Alberta doesn't make them a good addition. I wish people would stop using this as a prerequisite for a player to be acquired, whether it be from a trade, FA, or the draft.

Whether a guy is from BC, Sask, Alberta, Ontario, or the USA doesn't matter. Where they are from has no effect on their game. If he's a good player in his own right, then bring the guy in.

[dino7c]

the fact that a guy is from Alberta means he might actually want to sign here (friends and family ect.)

Calgary doesn't have much to offer at the moment other than money and location (for some) I agree though don't sign a guy just because he is from Alberta but if he fills a need wanting to play here is a big part of it

[chanimal40]

Originally Posted by dino7c

the fact that a guy is from Alberta means he might actually want to sign here (friends and family ect.)

Calgary doesn't have much to offer at the moment other than money and location (for some) I agree though don't sign a guy just because he is from Alberta but if he fills a need wanting to play here is a big part of it

He's is the top scorer on your team for the last many years. For example why would you trade Joe Sakic. Iggy is the same level as Sakic. So 1 bad season you trade him for a bag of pucks. Bring him back and let him retire as a flame. It also makes your franchise look better that your star player retires in your organization.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by chanimal40

He's is the top scorer on your team for the last many years. For example why would you trade Joe Sakic. Iggy is the same level as Sakic. So 1 bad season you trade him for a bag of pucks. Bring him back and let him retire as a flame. It also makes your franchise look better that your star player retires in your organization.

Waaaat? Aren't we talking about Setoguchi? Or did I miss something?

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by chanimal40

He's is the top scorer on your team for the last many years. For example why would you trade Joe Sakic. Iggy is the same level as Sakic. So 1 bad season you trade him for a bag of pucks. Bring him back and let him retire as a flame. It also makes your franchise look better that your star player retires in your organization.

Dino is talking about Setoguchi.