I know same. It's like I wanted to watch to fuel my rage, but reading the article, pretty sure I'm enraged enough.
If a cop did that to my dog I would end up charged for assaulting a police officer. Although if it happened in Florida, I'd more likely end up getting shot myself.
I know same. It's like I wanted to watch to fuel my rage, but reading the article, pretty sure I'm enraged enough.
If a cop did that to my dog I would end up charged for assaulting a police officer. Although if it happened in Florida, I'd more likely end up getting shot myself.
I did watch the video. The officer knocks on the door. It opens a small crack and the officer leans in to see around the door/speak to whoever opened the door. A dog that is waist-tall on the officer bursts out barking furiously going straight for the officer. The officer starts backpedaling as he draws his gun. The dog gets to and stays within close melee distance of the officer until stopped by the bullets. Then the door opens the rest of the way and a lady comes out.
Watching it...and thinking about being put in the same situation, I honestly can't say I wouldn't have reacted differently.
Is it an 'ideal' ending? Not a chance. Is it understandable? Yes.
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I did watch the video. The officer knocks on the door. It opens a small crack and the officer leans in to see around the door/speak to whoever opened the door. A dog that is waist-tall on the officer bursts out barking furiously going straight for the officer. The officer starts backpedaling as he draws his gun. The dog gets to and stays within close melee distance of the officer until stopped by the bullets. Then the door opens the rest of the way and a lady comes out.
Watching it...and thinking about being put in the same situation, I honestly can't say I wouldn't have reacted differently.
Is it an 'ideal' ending? Not a chance. Is it understandable? Yes.
Sounds more intense than the article describes.
I still don't give any leeway to an officer using his weapon on anything that isnt a wild (IE from the woods) animal without actually being attacked. Be on guard, have the person call/control the dog, if the dog begins attacking you to the point that you have to shoot it in order to stop it, fine. It should be last resort. If a dog is shot and the person shooting it doesn't have a single mark from the dog, there's a problem.
I still don't give any leeway to an officer using his weapon on anything that isnt a wild (IE from the woods) animal without actually being attacked. Be on guard, have the person call/control the dog, if the dog begins attacking you to the point that you have to shoot it in order to stop it, fine. It should be last resort. If a dog is shot and the person shooting it doesn't have a single mark from the dog, there's a problem.
From what it looked like to me (I wasn't there, just watched the vid)...the officer, had he waited about 1 second longer, would have had the dog munching on his gun arm or private bits. I'm frankly kind of surprised he had the time to draw and shoot, it happened that fast. I think it was just 'lucky' (for him...) he hit the dog in the first place.
From what it looked like to me (I wasn't there, just watched the vid)...the officer, had he waited about 1 second longer, would have had the dog munching on his gun arm or private bits. I'm frankly kind of surprised he had the time to draw and shoot, it happened that fast. I think it was just 'lucky' (for him...) he hit the dog in the first place.
Yeah I'll watch the video when I get home (while cuddling my fuzzy friend).
My question is why is the gun his go-to deterrent? Billy club or tazer I'm sure would work just fine, and have much less opportunity for collateral damage. Even just shooting the gun straight up (while not smart) probably would have stopped the dog from the noise alone.
I just don't get the zero-100 reaction. My dog has run up to people before too. He's a big dog, but would attack anything in his life. I can see why people might be freaked out to see him running towards them looking for love, so I've mostly trained it out of him, but if someone shot him for that...damn.
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The article does a terrible job of describing what happened.
I will let qualified people judge whether he was right in pulling his gun and shooting the dog but if I was in his situation I would be scared and the dog definitely looks to be coming at him aggressively.
I think its tough to tell in a video (with no sound?) and with the benefit of hindsight easy to say what someone should or shouldn't have done but for those that don't watch the video (not saying you should) do not rely on the article for what happened because that is basically sensational BS that they printed.
The article does a terrible job of describing what happened.
I will let qualified people judge whether he was right in pulling his gun and shooting the dog but if I was in his situation I would be scared and the dog definitely looks to be coming at him aggressively.
The article described exactly what happens.
Give me a fricken break. I could restrain that dog with my left foot while drinking a beer.
The officer is ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Unless he has an arrest or search warrant, I hope he loses his job and is sued civily for every dollar he has.
From what it looked like to me (I wasn't there, just watched the vid)...the officer, had he waited about 1 second longer, would have had the dog munching on his gun arm or private bits. I'm frankly kind of surprised he had the time to draw and shoot, it happened that fast. I think it was just 'lucky' (for him...) he hit the dog in the first place.
Why? what video were you watching? He had his hand on the gun before the door even opened. The reason he shot thi dog was he saw a American terrier. The dog was probably barking after he knocked so he assumed it was a big dog that would be aggressive when the door opened. He looked ready for a fight ONLY after he knocked on the door.I don't think there would have been shots fired if it was a little dog that he thought was barking. I think it looks like he got a little trigger happy.
This is speculation I know but after the officer knocked the situation escalated. Hiw many times have tou knocked on a friend's door that owned a dog that it didn't bark?
Edit: DO NOT WATCH THE VIDEO IF YOU ARE SCRIMISH.
It is absolutely heart breaking. American police.. Shoot now and take names later.
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Give me a fricken break. I could restrain that dog with my left foot while drinking a beer.
The officer is ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Unless he has an arrest or search warrant, I hope he loses his job and is sued civily for every dollar he has.
Pathetic
First of all the quote cowardly cop, that doesn't describe anything at it is just used to paint the picture they want.
They say there was no reason to think the dog was aggressive? The dog pushed open the door and charged him. That is a pretty damn aggressive
move.
And tell me how this quote is in anyway what happened or anything close to journalism:
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In his report, the cop will surely say that he “feared for his life” from the 40-pound animal. One wonders if he felt any remorse at all for his brutal actions.
The whole article is written in a way to make the officer look bad. I could easily write an article that paints him as a hero using the same level of "facts" they did.
First of all the quote cowardly cop, that doesn't describe anything at it is just used to paint the picture they want.
They say there was no reason to think the dog was aggressive? The dog pushed open the door and charged him. That is a pretty damn aggressive
move.
And tell me how this quote is in anyway what happened or anything close to journalism:
The whole article is written in a way to make the officer look bad. I could easily write an article that paints him as a hero using the same level of "facts" they did.
what part of he was on private property dont you understand? this monster murdered some families dog because he was too big of a ##### to deal with a dog. he came on to a law abiding citizens property, knocked on their door, then shot their ####ing dog when he got spooked. he didnt have to be there, period,.
this ass clown should be fired and working at mcdonalds and never be allowed to carry a gun again. #### i cant believe i watched that video.
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First of all the quote cowardly cop, that doesn't describe anything at it is just used to paint the picture they want.
They say there was no reason to think the dog was aggressive? The dog pushed open the door and charged him. That is a pretty damn aggressive
move.
The whole article is written in a way to make the officer look bad. I could easily write an article that paints him as a hero using the same level of "facts" they did.
Welcome to dogs. They come running up to sniff you and to lick you and beg for cookies.
Yeah this cop is looking bad in the article because he's a trigger happy, dog killing psycho.
I really wish I didn't watch that. At least before I watched it, I kind of imagined that the dog was scary and lunging. That dog was just excited.
That "cop" needs to not be allowed to have a gun or a badge anymore.
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what part of he was on private property dont you understand? this monster murdered some families dog because he was too big of a ##### to deal with a dog. he came on to a law abiding citizens property, knocked on their door, then shot their ####ing dog when he got spooked. he didnt have to be there, period,.
this ass clown should be fired and working at mcdonalds and never be allowed to carry a gun again. #### i cant believe i watched that video.
Why do I care if he is on private property?
The dog attacked and he should defend himself whether on private property or public.
And this 'mobster" was apparently trying to let the people know that their car door was open. What an awful thing for him to do.
what part of he was on private property dont you understand? .
This isn't The Simpsons, you can't just sic the hounds on people. Responsible dog owners all over the world know this. Would you be okay if some pitbull mauled a Girl Scout trying to sell cookies if it was on private property? Of course not.
An unfortunate situation, but the dog should have been restrained before the door was opened. Then we wouldn't have to be questioning the officer's actions at all. Part of being a responsible dog owner is controlling your dog.
As a bit of 'Faith in Humanity restored', here's some Calgary officers dealing with an owner and his biting dog.
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I used to be a letter carrier (mailman) and now I manage them. We deal with vicious dogs on a daily basis and we do not need a gun to do so.
Police officers should carry dog spray to deal with situations like this.
That said, I have little sympathy for people who can't control their animals. I've seen way too many people severely injured by dogs. I'm a dog lover by the way.
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