[Trade] Flames acquire Shane O'Brien and David Jones for Tanguay and Sarich

[trackercowe]

To look at it another way, since Tanguay had a NMC Feaster was probably limited to the amount of teams he was willing to go to. So who knows what teams he would have given the okay too. Colorado is obviously one of them, since that is where his best years were, and he'll be reunited with Roy/Sakic/Hedjuk. So if the Avs were one of only a few teams that both wanted Tanguay and Tanguay was willing to go to, then this was a fine trade indeed. I also doubt the Avalanche were willing to part with draft picks because of their salary budget and drafting position.

We needed to get Tanguay off this team by hell or high water, and at least we brought back someone who doesn't mind playing up north on a rebuilding team. Not a fan of O'Brien, but Sarich was essentially a non-asset anyway.

Pretty decent trade I suppose, but our first priority needs to be acquiring picks/prospects. We better not just opening up cap space and positions to bring in someone like Vanek; that would be a catastrophic mistake.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

True, Tanguay does have a lower cap hit than Jones. You are juding Jones off of half a season, and if Jones becomes a 3rd or 4th liner then that's a win. Moving Tanguay for a 28 year old 3rd or 4th liner is totally worth it. And if we have to buy out Jones next year, then nothing lost. Tanguay has 0 value to the Flames on the roster, not the type of player we need now in style or in age, and Tanguay has limited to know trade value, he was not in demand.

This seems to be the best option to explore IMO if the options with Tanguay are 1) keep him on the roster, 2) buy him out, 3) accept this trade. It's really a no risk move for the Flames.

I obviously don't like this trade, however I understand how both sides can say they "won". Both teams trade players on bad contracts, Jones/O'Brien adds much needed size to our lineup, Tangs/Sarich adds a veteran presence and a proven top 6 player to the Avs. However I have a feeling people will get frustrated fast with Jones and O'Brien.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Sorry to do this to you:

"This just in from veteran NHL writer Mike Russo of the StarTribune in Minneapolis: “Clutterbuck might be willing to sign a cap-friendly one-year deal, but he also has value on the trade market. One team hot after him is Edmonton; the Wild has talked to the Oilers about a deal that would include Minnesotan Tyler Pitlick.”

Oh man, and I thought I couldn't hate Clusterf&*k any more than I do already. If he ends up on the greasers that will multiply my hatred exponentially.

[AC]

Looks like he has a good shot and great speed:
http://video.avalanche.nhl.com/video...ed-share-video
http://video.avalanche.nhl.com/video...ed-share-video
http://video.avalanche.nhl.com/video...ed-share-video

Hard working too:
http://video.avalanche.nhl.com/video...ed-share-video

[SuperMatt18]

Tanguay is a good hockey player, when the conditions are perfect for hin to suceed. That's not going to happen here over the next 3 years.

He will probably bounce back in Colorado since he has talent to play with, and will work hard for Roy and Sakic.

But for the Flames this is still a good deal, bigger, stronger, and younger.

Win-Win for both teams.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by mustache ride

We basically just got Blake Comeau for Alex Tanguay but on a worse contract!

Yeah I remember the same song and dance "but but but Comeau scored 20+ goals before"

Not expecting more than a Moss/Comeau clone

[Vinny01]

Not a fan but I don't absolutely hate it. Jones is a terrible contract just awful but he has potential to bounce back a little bit. I was hoping Tangs had more value but not surprised this is all we got. I will not be shocked if we use a compliance buyout on Jones next summer.

No surprise this trade is being totally destroyed on hf

Sarich for SOB? Meh

[liamenator]

this deal is a win considering both Tanguay and Sarich, at their ages and with their existing contacts, have negative value.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

What is our average age now? where do we stand with that compared with the rest of the league?

26.79 if you don't remove the free agents.

With the free agents that they likely won't be re-signing, it's 25.28.

[miraisoup]

He didnt really spin it

@SUNGilbertson 2m
#Flames Feaster: “Sarich, he's been a warrior for a long time ... Alex has done great things for us. But the reality is, we're rebuilding."

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Needs to be repeated

Rebuilding teams make trades like this, for the right reasons.

Hmm, they are?

I'm struggling to come up with an example of a trade that I can compare with this one that would fit your description. We took on extra salary, which is unlike what a lot of other rebuilding teams would do, especially when they are trying to dump an 'albatross'. When I think of a rebuilding trade, I think of trading a contract like Tanguay for draft picks or trading Sarich at the deadline for a marginal pick (which he likely would have gotten for us this upcoming deadline). Not really trading off a player at their lowest value.

I actually don't understand what the trade accomplishes. We got younger, yes, but we also got worse in terms of talent, we actually gave up some character in terms of Sarich for a complete doofus in SOB and we took money back.

Is it a bad trade? Not really. Does it help the 'rebuild'? Doubtful, and it might set us back a bit.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Well Shane O'Brien just said on the radio that he hates the Canucks, and that they make it easy to hate them. He just became a lot more popular here in Calgary.

Ok, he gets a pass for the first season

[Itse]

With Jones we could have something better than Tanguay next season. With Tanguay we couldn't.

Then again, with a 2nd rounder we could have something better, younger and cheaper than Jones in a couple of years.

I'll just wait and see, but I feel like our team is going to be even more painful to watch next season.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by sun

I don't think I understand your point. Half of your posts mention how far away we are from contending. We are a bottom feeder. Those two players are first liners on this team. Will they be taking spots away from our high picks in 5+ years? Can you expand?

They are amongst the gaggle of older second and third line wingers that do not provide enough leadership and / or performance to warranty them being keepers in this rebuilding phase.

The kids deserve better as does the organization.

The last 10 games were not a fluke. See their numbers....more importantly did you see their effort.

It will take some time but the previous culture and mindset is almost all gone.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

With respect to SB allegedly being the Vegas ringleader...

Whatever - guys make mistakes and assumedly learn from them. When something like that happens, the player has to be traded and is usually sold on the cheap. I am willing to see if he learned his lesson.

Whatever? Whatever?

I wouldn't want a guy with discipline issues anywhere near our rookies.

But I guess its just Tanguay and his moping thats an issue...

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Well Shane O'Brien just said on the radio that he hates the Canucks, and that they make it easy to hate them. He just became a lot more popular here in Calgary.

Ok, I'll give him a dozen games before I get too critical.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

26.79 if you don't remove the free agents.

With the free agents that they likely won't be re-signing, it's 25.28.

And yet everyone on HF and various other boards keep going off about how old and slow the Flames are..

ELL OH ELL

[mustache ride]

I`m just sitting here getting angrier and angrier! Someone else scouts for Feaster! Someone else drafts for Feaster! Can we get someone else in the freaking room to make these trades for him!

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

And yet everyone on HF and various other boards keep going off about how old and slow the Flames are..

ELL OH ELL

The only guys left over the age of 30 are Cammalleri, Glencross, Jackman, Stempniak and Wideman.

[alan21]

NOOOOO!!!! I know there is no room for a guy like Tanguay anymore but I really enjoyed watching him in a Flames uniform. One of my favorite Flames and players in general. With no Iggy to pass to, this had to happen.