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Old 08-15-2012, 02:37 PM   #321
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You called United fans comparable to Canuck fans, and now you're joking. cute.
Actually, I never said a word about fans. In fact, I never mentioned fans at all. Sore spot for you?
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:39 PM   #322
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Arsenal should still be a very good team, especially if they can keep Song.
It's looking as though he'll be leaving. As long as we replace him with a true holding mid, I'll be as pleased as punch. Although I do love his occasional Hollywood pass, I'd prefer it if the defensive mid concentrated on defending and let the other two attempt the theatrics.


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I would not be surprised at all if Podolski was a huge failure

never done it at club level, hasn't been great for country in a few years as well (and he likely just lost his spot)
Hopefully the Emirates will be an environment where he can thrive and Wenger a manger that can help him achieve his potential; fingers crossed.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:45 PM   #323
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Sore spot for you?
He probably heard that RvP did his ankle during his unveiling photo shoot...
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:55 PM   #324
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:59 PM   #325
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--------------------De Gea

Rafael---------Vidic--------Ferdinand---------Evra

----------Cleverley----------Carrick

Valencia------------Rooney----------------Kagawa

------------------van Persie

... man, I can't wait for this season to start
Kagawa isn't a winger. He plays in Rooney's AM spot in your formation.

Cleverly and Kagawa are the A'M.s
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:07 PM   #326
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Actually, I never said a word about fans. In fact, I never mentioned fans at all. Sore spot for you?
You couldn't possibly be so clinically disillusioned to compare the actual clubs?

Which is why it's easy to correlate your resentment of each teams fans.

Liverpool HATES Manchester.
Flames HATE Canucks
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:08 PM   #327
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Kagawa isn't a winger. He plays in Rooney's AM spot in your formation.

Cleverly and Kagawa are the A'M.s
Kagawa isn't a typical winger, but he can play all positions in the offensive midfield.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:16 PM   #328
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You couldn't possibly be so clinically disillusioned to compare the actual clubs?

Which is why it's easy to correlate your resentment of each teams fans.

Liverpool HATES Manchester.
Flames HATE Canucks
Wow. Are you seriously this thick? Okay son, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it:

It has nothing at all to do with fans, I made a point stating that selling van Persie to United would be akin to the Flames trading Iginla to the Canucks, with no return.

You see the comparison?

Arsenal have sold van Persie and received in return no competitive assistance. I compared this to trading Iginla for nothing. In each instance a star player is given to a rival team with no competitive return hence the comparison.

Furthermore these are two teams that compete directly against one another. The Flames/Canucks are in the same division, they play many games against one another, competing for a playoff spot. Arsenal/United are competing for the same trophies and could play many games against each other?

In this way you see that a team has moved a star to a rival at their own detriment.

In no way were fans even entered into the equation in any way, that was your own 'clinical disillusionment.'

Are we clear now? Having to explain the whole thing took all of the fun out of it.
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Liverpool = Edmonton. Both are current failures living on past wins.
Man City = Vancouver
Chelsea = Toronto (ya ya, perhaps different recent performances)
Completely agree with these.

For me also:
Man United = Montreal. Great history of winning, but still can't stand them.
Arsenal=Calgary. Always trying to be competitive, but falling a little short.
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Kagawa isn't a typical winger, but he can play all positions in the offensive midfield.
Granted it was limited I saw some of him in Dortmund, and I didn't see him playing out of position.
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Wow. Are you seriously this thick? Okay son, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it:

It has nothing at all to do with fans, I made a point stating that selling van Persie to United would be akin to the Flames trading Iginla to the Canucks, with no return.

You see the comparison?

Arsenal have sold van Persie and received in return no competitive assistance. I compared this to trading Iginla for nothing. In each instance a star player is given to a rival team with no competitive return hence the comparison.

Furthermore these are two teams that compete directly against one another. The Flames/Canucks are in the same division, they play many games against one another, competing for a playoff spot. Arsenal/United are competing for the same trophies and could play many games against each other?

In this way you see that a team has moved a star to a rival at their own detriment.

In no way were fans even entered into the equation in any way, that was your own 'clinical disillusionment.'

Are we clear now? Having to explain the whole thing took all of the fun out of it.
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Sorry, in my little personal sports comparison world:

United = Vancouver
Everton = Edmonton
Liverpool = Calgary
Arsenal = Colorado

And thats the way I like it.
Hot headed Daglish that you?
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Hot headed Daglish that you?
Where in there did I say anything at all about the fans? Even look at Winsor_Pilates, hes referring to club histories to make a comparison to hockey teams.

Any comment that I made that you think refers to fans is all on you.
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Liverpool = Edmonton. Both are current failures living on past wins.
... whose sole purpose now is to provide the rest of the league with laughs.

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Wow. Are you seriously this thick? Okay son, I'll hold your hand and walk you through it:

It has nothing at all to do with fans, I made a point stating that selling van Persie to United would be akin to the Flames trading Iginla to the Canucks, with no return.

You see the comparison?

Arsenal have sold van Persie and received in return no competitive assistance. I compared this to trading Iginla for nothing. In each instance a star player is given to a rival team with no competitive return hence the comparison.
So much fail ..... first comparing a sale to a trade.

And then doesn't even consider that Wenger mightn't have had an option.

And then considers that 24 odd million quid = "no return".
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You're right I didn't, I made that reasonable link, which I already mentioned.

Moving on. United's biggest problem last season most indeed was their midfield, and the absense of Vidic.

Fletcher back from his gut ailment, signing of Kagawa, healthy Anderson and Cleverly, and Scholes.. should sort that.
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... whose sole purpose now is to provide the rest of the league with laughs.


So much fail ..... first comparing a sale to a trade.

And then doesn't even consider that Wenger mightn't have had an option.

And then considers that 24 odd million quid = "no return".
They must not teach basic reading comprehension and logical deduction in school in Manchester.

First of all, you didnt consider that I didnt have a choice? There are no 'sales' in hockey, so I compared it another way.

Secondly, Wenger's options are unknown and so I didnt comment on them, but I'm certain lots of teams were interested in Van Persie's services.

Finally, note, and I was very specific; 'no competitive return.' If he buys something with that money then that will be a different story, so far he hasnt, so as far as on-field personnel are concerned United have improved and Arsenal have regressed.
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I'm actually Canadian rube. And it's hard to use green text when on a cellphone. (see, I didn't even call it a mobile)
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They must not teach basic reading comprehension and logical deduction in school in Manchester.
There is zero to comprehend in your post. It's a load of mumbo jumbo.
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First of all, you didnt consider that I didnt have a choice? There are no 'sales' in hockey, so I compared it another way.
It is not a comparison. Well I suppose it is if you want to compare it to something that has zero comparison value. Like ... you know ... apples and oranges.
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Secondly, Wenger's options are unknown and so I didnt comment on them, but I'm certain lots of teams were interested in Van Persie's services.
If you're so certain ... name them and consider that Arsenal had a rigid 20M+ asking price.
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Finally, note, and I was very specific; 'no competitive return.' If he buys something with that money then that will be a different story, so far he hasnt, so as far as on-field personnel are concerned United have improved and Arsenal have regressed.
Arsenal regressed the moment VP said he wanted out. Today they gained a competitive return in the form of cold hard cash for a player that wanted out. A lot more cold hard cash than other teams were prepared to offer.
Wenger did ok .... considering his hand was forced.
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Wow. Ok. Well, you continue to be willfully ignorant and best of luck with that.
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