Egypt leaves the Internet, citizens revolt. Update: Internet's back, still revolting.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

I can't believe more people aren't watching this! A country of this size going through a revolution before our eyes is the story of the decade! Granted a short decade since it's only 2011.

Also annoys me when you try to bring Egypt into the conversation and some people don't even realize what is going on over there.

[mikey_the_redneck]

I can't help but imagine how this event would have happened if Egyptian citizens could own firearms. That could be one hell of a fight.

[HotHotHeat]

I thought the same thing. Thank goodness this isn't a gun culture.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

I thought the same thing. Thank goodness this isn't a gun culture.

When a dictator with a secret police has controlled your country for 30 years and he says no guns allowed, whether it's a gun culture or not, there won't be many guns among the regular populace.

[SebC]

I may be mistaken, but knowing mikey_the_redneck, wasn't he saying things would be better if the population had guns?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by SebC

I may be mistaken, but knowing mikey_the_redneck, wasn't he saying things would be better if the population had guns?

If the population had guns, things would be much different. If it was the people against just the regime's secret police and security, I think they could have removed Mubarak already. If the Egyptian army decided to turn on the people and intervene however, you could potentially have an all-out civil war, in which case I think NATO or other friendly's might step in to calm things down.

Guns aside, I think the Egyptian people are going to lose out here though. The globalists will make sure that a West-friendly or West-tolerant leadership takes over and while they might make a few concessions on personal liberty, the econonmic plundering of Egypt will continue.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by TheyCallMeBruce

I can't believe more people aren't watching this! A country of this size going through a revolution before our eyes is the story of the decade! Granted a short decade since it's only 2011.

Also annoys me when you try to bring Egypt into the conversation and some people don't even realize what is going on over there.

Yeah I find it pretty riveting actually, and I'm startled to hear most people at work and elsewhere seem to be in haze about it. Short attention spans or what.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Yeah I find it pretty riveting actually, and I'm startled to hear most people at work and elsewhere seem to be in haze about it. Short attention spans or what.

Not everyone gets all worked up by every little event that pops up around the world. Remember last year when we were all agog at the looming Iranian revolution? How'd that turn out?

Personally, in regards to Egypt, I'm betting on the status quo.

[GirlySports]

yeah I've got the tv on as well. CBC reporters treading carefully and trying to make friends so they don't get attacked.

[worth]

I'm completley caught up in this. I don't have TV, so the only info I get is from the internet, and basically i've just been watching Al Jazeera's feed. I think a lot has to do with me being there 2 months ago. But the people at my work, this is all we've talked about. My friends chat a little bit about it, but for the most part, the people I talk to know what's going on.

What I think is sad though is the same thing happened in Tunisia earlier this month, and I didn't hear a peep out of anyone during that revolution.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by worth

What I think is sad though is the same thing happened in Tunisia earlier this month, and I didn't hear a peep out of anyone during that revolution.

Tunisia didn't leave the Internet.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Not everyone gets all worked up by every little event that pops up around the world. Remember last year when we were all agog at the looming Iranian revolution? How'd that turn out?

Personally, in regards to Egypt, I'm betting on the status quo.

This is hardly a "little" event, and neither was the attempted Iranian Revolution. But okay.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

This is hardly a "little" event, and neither was the attempted Iranian Revolution. But okay.

I would caution against inflating the relative importance of an event based on your interest in the event, the media's interest in the event, or the fact this event is taking place during your lifetime.

These revolutions are common and generally produce very little in terms of tangible change. Moreover, even when they do produce something like the Orange revolution in Ukraine, the change rarely lasts.

I stand by "little".

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Not everyone gets all worked up by every little event that pops up around the world. Remember last year when we were all agog at the looming Iranian revolution? How'd that turn out?

Personally, in regards to Egypt, I'm betting on the status quo.

Little compared to what? Who Snookie shagged on Jersey Shore?

Its disturbing that a lot of people choose to remain uninformed about important things happening in the world. I'm not saying everyone has to have a political science background, but still...these events have repercussions around the world..including the west.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Not everyone gets all worked up by every little event that pops up around the world. Remember last year when we were all agog at the looming Iranian revolution? How'd that turn out?

Personally, in regards to Egypt, I'm betting on the status quo.

This civil unrest has spread like wild fire. The middle east could really ignite here if Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen jump on the riot bandwagon as well. And it has already started...

Haven't you noticed the riots around the world? I think these are very interesting times. Greece, Ireland, Britain, Italy are more examples of rioting nations due to banker austerity (tyranny) and economic hardship.

Maybe the mainstream news media is not giving these events adequate coverage?
I think this kind of unrest could be coming to the U.S.A.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Little compared to what? Who Snookie shagged on Jersey Shore?

Its disturbing that a lot of people choose to remain uninformed about important things happening in the world. I'm not saying everyone has to have a political science background, but still...these events have repercussions around the world..including the west.

Uh-huh.

Let's look into the future. Waaaaaay into the future. Like, 6 months from now. Are these mind blowing events still reverberating around the globe? Or has everything calmed down and returned to norm?

When I look at Egypt, I'll know something really important is happening when the powers start protecting the Suez Canal. Until then, this is a local story (relatively speaking, of course) with a global audience.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

This civil unrest has spread like wild fire. The middle east could really ignite here if Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen jump on the riot bandwagon as well. And it has already started...

Haven't you noticed the riots around the world? I think these are very interesting times. Greece, Ireland, Britain, Italy are more examples of rioting nations due to banker austerity (tyranny) and economic hardship.

Exactly. And when things become "big" news, they often stem from smaller trigger events (not saying this event is small). Wars or political transitions don't just start out of the blue, there's always a buildup of events that precede them. Who knows how this will play out but given the region of the world and the country its happening in, it most certainly isn't a minor event.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Uh-huh.

Let's look into the future. Waaaaaay into the future. Like, 6 months from now. Are these mind blowing events still reverberating around the globe? Or has everything calmed down and returned to norm?

When I look at Egypt, I'll know something really important is happening when the powers start protecting the Suez Canal. Until then, this is a local story (relatively speaking, of course) with a global audience.

What's "the norm"? Political, social and economical situations are always constantly in a state of change and are sometimes a delicate balance that could snowball once disrupted. It may not have gotten to the point of western intervention or civil war yet but that doesn't mean its some blip on the radar.

Anyhow, feel free to place as much importance on the matter as you want to, no point in arguing about it. I'll continue to watch it with interest.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Uh-huh.

Let's look into the future. Waaaaaay into the future. Like, 6 months from now. Are these mind blowing events still reverberating around the globe? Or has everything calmed down and returned to norm?

When I look at Egypt, I'll know something really important is happening when the powers start protecting the Suez Canal. Until then, this is a local story (relatively speaking, of course) with a global audience.

Absolutely not. This is one of the most populous Islamic countries and most populous country in the Arab world violently rejecting authoritarian government. Hugely significant for a region ruled be despots in a geopolitical power center of the world.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

I would caution against inflating the relative importance of an event based on your interest in the event, the media's interest in the event, or the fact this event is taking place during your lifetime.

These revolutions are common and generally produce very little in terms of tangible change. Moreover, even when they do produce something like the Orange revolution in Ukraine, the change rarely lasts.

I stand by "little".

I'm not inflating the importance of the event because of my interest in it. But thanks for the warning.

We are seeing a growing uprising against the powers that be in Islamic countries. In case you haven't been paying attention to the little events on the news, a lot of Western foreign policy has been associated with that area of the world (the Middle-East, although on the map that part is little -- look close).

It's not every day a country of Egypt's size, with Egypt's importance in the Mid-East has a revolution. Believing a revolution is doomed to inevitable failure because prior revolutions around the world have failed is a fallacy, and, frankly, small-minded.

I'd caution against that.