Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Icon

I just want some actual news from either player or the team, one way or the other.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1536871253427924992


From yesterday. The "report" was a radio dude out east who said he heard Johnny signed 9.5 x 8. Since been deleted. Oddly enough, anyone who reports 9.5 x 8 quickly recants.

I wouldn't call this actual news, but it was the best I could do.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Icon

I just want some actual news from either player or the team, one way or the other.

There won't be any actual news until either Gaudreau has re-signed, or signed with another team. Both sides appear to be working on a mutual understanding, and are keeping things very private.

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[Icon]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

There won't be any actual news until either Gaudreau has re-signed, or signed with another team. Both sides appear to be working on a mutual understanding, and are keeping things very private.

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Yeah I know, just venting as I usually do at this time of the year when I just want some of the dominos to start to drop

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Icon

I just want some actual news from either player or the team, one way or the other.

I doubt we hear anything from a legit source until the season is over

[Moneyhands23]

I still think johnny signs an 8 year deal with Calgary.

But I'm not sure what will be worse if he doesn't.

Him being gone or listing to BT talk about the process going forward.

[mile]

Just have to wait until Ryan Leslie tweets the eyes emoji

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by mile

Just have to wait until Ryan Leslie tweets the eyes emoji

Say what?

[ComixZone]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1537195493897523200

Lock Johnny and Chucky in now. The cap is going to climb significantly once the shutdown debt is paid.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Icon

I just want some actual news from either player or the team, one way or the other.

Not me, I only want good news.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1537195493897523200

Lock Johnny and Chucky in now. The cap is going to climb significantly once the shutdown debt is paid.

Record high with a fair amount of games where there were restrictions on attendance and an overall down in attendance throughout the year.

I’d love to see an update on how long it takes to pay off the lost revenue

If it takes 2 more seasons if the Flames can get Tkachuk and Gaudreau to resign for reasonable money and make moves to lock up guys like Mangiapane we could be set up better than most teams

I wouldn’t be surprised if the cap had 1 off season of a 10% to 15% jump. Just not sure if that’s 2 or 3 years from now

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Duchene should be moved down to the moved list he went to Nashville on July 1.

Same with Anders Lee (as I said in that post). The list is UFA eligible players who sign for 7-8 years AFTER their final TDL. Which applies to Lee and Duchene, though we can only speculate about the reasons. Since the GMs involved are Poile and Lou, I suspect they simply held firm on their offers (which may/may not have included an 8 year option) and kept them on the table until say 6pm on July 1...both guys checked the market and didn't get their socks knocked off. Hard to imagine that scenario plays out with Johnny, though.

It's more than a little concerning if you dig into the big guys who stayed;

Stamkos - TBL was coming off G7ECF and G6 SCF in the 2 previous years, and the Florida tax advantage (which is generally overblown, but it's not nothing).

Landeskog - COL clearly on the cusp of breaking through. The expansion draft may have also created a bit of uncertainty and delayed negotiations a bit (losing Donskoi and his 3.9 AAV probably made it more possible to keep him than if they lost a cheaper D or something). Makar, MacKinnon, and Rantanen had clearly surpassed him in importance to the team and he probably took a pretty big discount to stay. The Kuemper trader happened the next day, so it seems COL had a lot of moving parts.

There aren't really any similarities with Johnny's situation...it could still happen, but this seems much closer to the NYI and CBJ situations where the teams tried hard to keep the players...

Originally Posted by Vinny01

2- heavy in bonuses that make it tough to buyout and I believe are also exempt from escrow? Whatever the maximum in the CBA is for upfront money and bonuses should be in the deal

SB's are still subject to escrow. I'm 99% sure buyout payments are subject to escrow, too. The only thing that isn't is AHL salary.

I think SB's may help you exploit jurisdictional tax benefits a little more, and you can get more ROI by getting more money in the market sooner.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1537195493897523200

Lock Johnny and Chucky in now. The cap is going to climb significantly once the shutdown debt is paid.

I guess record revenue does include Seattle and 32 teams so it could be misleading too

[TheScorpion]

Gaudreau must be a free agent — I just received a friend request from the (banned) user Gaudreauvertime. o_O

[mile]

oh snap

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1537195493897523200

Lock Johnny and Chucky in now. The cap is going to climb significantly once the shutdown debt is paid.

Mike Johnson said 3 years to pay back the players debt.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Gaudreau must be a free agent — I just received a friend request from the (banned) user Gaudreauvertime. o_O

Hmmm who’s now appearing online and is now just ‘in the sin bin’


Gaudeauvertime have we mentioned enough just how much we love Johnny Hockey!?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Mike Johnson said 3 years to pay back the players debt.

They negotiated that. What’s going to happen is 3 seasons of $1M increase and then a big, big jump in 24/25 (I think?)

It’s actually not a bad time to lock players into a big deals, because they’ll begin to look like brilliant value in the very near future.

[Northendzone]

This claim of record revenue seems hard to believe, the Canadian teams did not have full crowds until what mid January. Now many thier crowds were really strong on the back half so that makes up for some of that.

I don’t recal what American teams were doing in the early going.

Of course on the other hand, why would bet an exaggerate.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

This claim of record revenue seems hard to believe, the Canadian teams did not have full crowds until what mid January. Now many thier crowds were really strong on the back half so that makes up for some of that.

I don’t recal what American teams were doing in the early going.

Of course on the other hand, why would bet an exaggerate.

Beet sales alone probably helped a lot lol.

But really it's the new us tv deal

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Beet sales alone probably helped a lot lol.

But really it's the new us tv deal

Gotta love them beets!