11-13-2019, 02:06 PM
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#3321
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Franchise Player
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To validate a ticket, riders must then scan it on board the bus or train.
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Does that mean the validators will be on the trains? Cool if it means you can run and grab a train that is departing, but if that is the case I could see people not buying tickets unless the transit cops are checking.
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11-13-2019, 02:15 PM
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#3322
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Do they tie their phones to their head while they stand outside?
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Some phones do not fare well in cold temps.
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11-13-2019, 02:23 PM
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#3323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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The other thing is, when you're train is stuck between platforms for an hour because of some "mechanical" failure... do the e-fares get reset or something? And then your battery dies because you've been reading CalgaryPuck for the whole time.
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11-13-2019, 02:29 PM
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#3324
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Powerplay Quarterback
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probably the same thing that happens when your paper transfer expires because theres a delay: nothing and hope the train cops are sympathetic
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11-13-2019, 03:46 PM
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#3325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Wormius
Some phones do not fare well in cold temps.
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11-13-2019, 03:57 PM
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#3326
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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If you're that concerned about your phone dying, then the paper passes are probably your best bet moving forward. That, or charge your phone more and carry a portable charger?
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11-13-2019, 05:26 PM
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#3327
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Having a train ticket by time is the dumbest thing only Calgary would think of.
Everywhere else you pay the distance or quadrant
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11-13-2019, 08:17 PM
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#3328
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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We'll see how these 'validators' work (or how annoying it will be to wait behind someone fumbling on their phone to unlock their phone and 'activate') but I'll give it a fair shake.
It has to be better than running to some weird retail outlet to buy tickets and passes every month right?
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11-13-2019, 08:36 PM
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#3329
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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One thing they should do is make the tickets “forever” like stamps.
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11-13-2019, 10:13 PM
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#3330
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First Line Centre
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Requiring a phone app is a half baked solution - many of the leading systems worldwide have moved to contactless payment where you have the option of tapping a credit card, using Apple Pay etc. A far better option for visitors unfamiliar with the system. I feel like it’s going to be outdated the day it launches.
It’s hard to believe that Hong Kong has had the octopus card since 1997 and Calgary Transit is still trying to figure this out.
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11-13-2019, 10:34 PM
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#3331
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Calgary Public Transit - Discussion
Something like the Suica card would be good in this scenario, and simpler, I think. Eventually phase out paper tickets as much as possible.
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11-14-2019, 12:23 AM
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#3332
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#1 Goaltender
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Yep. Why we can't use a system that works flawlessly around the world in one way or another beats me.
Plus, at a nominal purchase point for the card, for every tourist who picks up a card for a few days, you get that income.
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11-14-2019, 07:17 AM
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#3333
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by 81MC
Yep. Why we can't use a system that works flawlessly around the world in one way or another beats me.
Plus, at a nominal purchase point for the card, for every tourist who picks up a card for a few days, you get that income.
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Exactly. I will never understand why they didn't just make a deal with Vancouver and buy the Compass technology. Works great, and they sell millions of cards to tourists, and it also works with contactless payment. Of course, their train runs to the airport, so that helps immensely.
From the payment perspective, best system in Canada hands down. Presto in Ontario is awful.
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11-14-2019, 08:37 AM
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#3334
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarley
Requiring a phone app is a half baked solution - many of the leading systems worldwide have moved to contactless payment where you have the option of tapping a credit card, using Apple Pay etc. A far better option for visitors unfamiliar with the system. I feel like it’s going to be outdated the day it launches.
It’s hard to believe that Hong Kong has had the octopus card since 1997 and Calgary Transit is still trying to figure this out.
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The Octopus is great because not only is it simple and efficient, but you can use it at all kinds of stores and restaurants as well. It's really so useful for the consumer as well.
And of course London has the Oyster and full contactless payments. You can buy the card and load it as needed, or just tap your credit card as you pass the readers.
But yeah...let's get some app to have people mess around with this and hope it works well.
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11-14-2019, 08:40 AM
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#3335
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Voodooman
Exactly. I will never understand why they didn't just make a deal with Vancouver and buy the Compass technology. Works great, and they sell millions of cards to tourists, and it also works with contactless payment. Of course, their train runs to the airport, so that helps immensely.
From the payment perspective, best system in Canada hands down. Presto in Ontario is awful.
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I think that would be the prudent decision now as we are so far behind in the world of ticketing. However if you look at park plus that was a well developed in house system that was superior to anything in existence at the time so it’s not like the city can’t develop a good system that can be sold on the market. They just needed to do it 10 years ago.
Now just buy one that works.
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11-14-2019, 09:08 AM
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#3336
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Wormius
One thing they should do is make the tickets “forever” like stamps.
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Yes, absolutely. Why they are not is beyond me.
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11-14-2019, 09:18 AM
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#3337
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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It's been a couple of years since I've used one, but I've never been asked to pay extra to ride the bus using an older ticket from the ticket books. Is that a problem people are having?
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11-14-2019, 09:25 AM
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#3338
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Because the value of the tickets changes if the price of a single ticket changes, which does happen every 1-3 years.
Any option going forward should be a universally-accepted payment system such as Apple Pay / Google Pay that enables a time-sensitive token on the phone (e.g. 90 minutes I think is the current timeframe of a Calgary Transit ticket). An auto-generated QR code is generated and sent to your phone via SMS or email, and you can use that QR code to scan onto a transfer bus/train if needed.
Other options include having a specific CoC app for a transit pass, as well as having a "Suica" card (similar to that in Tokyo) that you fill at transit stops or convenience stores that can be used as a pre-paid option.
This doesn't even mention future ticketing systems involving biometrics and/or AI. Simply walking onto a bus or train and with facial or fingerprint recognition would then trigger an automated ticket that is billed to your house monthly.
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11-14-2019, 09:33 AM
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#3339
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by getbak
It's been a couple of years since I've used one, but I've never been asked to pay extra to ride the bus using an older ticket from the ticket books. Is that a problem people are having?
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I have on the bus, when I initially assumed the tickets are "forever". I wouldn't say its embarrassing, but I don't carry loose change to make up the difference.
I don't know the stats on how much the City would loose if they just honoured all tickets regardless of purchase date. I don't see this becoming a scam unless the same person is using tickets from 1997 all of the time.
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11-14-2019, 09:42 AM
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#3340
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Wormius
I don't know the stats on how much the City would loose if they just honoured all tickets regardless of purchase date. I don't see this becoming a scam unless the same person is using tickets from 1997 all of the time.
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I'm sure that the 10% that they'd "lose" by honouring the occasional old ticket would be well below what they lose through general fare evasion in just a few minutes of operating each day. Plus they already get to keep the revenue for unused, lost, or washing machine tickets.
I agree - just make them permanent for 1 fare. If someone is hedging against fare increases by investing in bulk ticket purchases, then good for them I guess. Same as with stamps, most people won't be bothered to invest in something like that to save a few bucks down the road.
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