2013 NFL regular season thread

[rubecube]

Missing the playoffs is going to be better as a whole for the Lions. Schwartz and Co. can't get fired fast enough.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Yeah, can put the Texans in their as well as they are at home to Denver. Houston has mailed it in though.

In week 4 Houston was 2-2, Tennessee was 3-1. Since than the Jaguars have won twice as many games asthose two teams have combined for. Houston isn't spoiling anything.

[Pagal4321]

The Lions are who we thought they were....

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Missing the playoffs is going to be better as a whole for the Lions. Schwartz and Co. can't get fired fast enough.

Yup. The 3 coaches that absolutely have to get fired for their stupidity are Kubiak, Garrett and Schwartz. Kubiak has already been let go so Houston is starting their search early.

Some will also argue that Smith in Atlanta should go but he had many winning seasons in a row for a team that sucked for decades. He gets another year to prove that it wasn't an aberration.

[Red Slinger]

^ Let's not forget Shanahan.

[Sainters7]

I don't get the Lions. Scoring only 16 at home, with that offence, in a big game like this. Especially with Rodgers & Cutler injured, you'd think this would be their year to take the North. After their 2011 breakout season, I expected them to be further along by this point.

[Jason14h]

Wheres Moon telling us all about the garbage ways Balt wins?

Det was totally outcoached, and again, all Flacco does is win and deliver a game winning drive.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I don't get the Saints. Scoring only 16, with that offence, in a big game like this. Especially with how awful Atlanta is and their almost guaranteed division title on the line after beating Carolina last week, you'd think this would be their year to take the NFC South..

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[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by DropIt

almost identical

Ya, but the lions were at home.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Wheres Moon telling us all about the garbage ways Balt wins?

Det was totally outcoached, and again, all Flacco does is win and deliver a game winning drive.

That certainly wasn't an impressive win by the Ravens but why focus on them when that was all garbage from Detroit.

Waste of a season and waste of so much talent.

LOL @ all Flacco does win and delivers a game winning drive.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

^ Let's not forget Shanahan.

Shanahan is playing with one arm behind his back. RGIII is a shadow of himself this year.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well its nice to know Baltimore fans are cool with Joe Flacco getting paid more than Manning, Brees and Brady, to produce at a 90% lower clip. 6 FG drives, almost all set up by terrible Flacco jump balls that either were bailed out with catches or penalties. Without Justin Tucker the Ravens lose last night 16-6. Joe Flacco has been outplayed by Matt Flynn and Josh McCown this year. If you're cool paying $20 million for that, well you're crazy. Flacco is no different than Eli, except Eli has two rings.

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Wheres Moon telling us all about the garbage ways Balt wins?

Det was totally outcoached, and again, all Flacco does is win and deliver a game winning drive.

Yeah, Flacco got his team in position for a "chip shot" 61 yard FG... and led the offense to 0 TD's, he is awesome......

[Jason14h]

Well its nice to know Baltimore fans are cool with Joe Flacco getting paid more than Manning, Brees and Brady, to produce at a 90% lower clip

Well he beat 2 of those QB's on the road on the way to the Superbowl and has more wins over the past 6 seasons. So yeah, it's fine.

Yeah, Flacco got his team in position for a "chip shot" 61 yard FG... and led the offense to 0 TD's, he is awesome.....

Didn't say he was awsome, said all he does is wins.

This is a team with the worst O-line in the league. 27% of running plays go negative. Most false start penalties. Up there for holding penalties.

Flacco has a undrafted rookie as his #2 WR. No TE until last week (Who is still crippled). And yet when the big throw is needed he has done it to somehow keep this team in the hunt.

Look at Brady when Gronk and Amendola were out. Their O was pathetic.

Look at Ryan this season. Look at Eli. Look at Kapernick. If you loose big time receiving weapon a QB struggles. The good ones find ways to win.

The only reason Stafford isn't being run out of Det is he can constantly throw terrible passes and get bailed out by Megatron. Last night Megatron played poorly and we saw how good the Det O looked. Stafford is the most overated QB in the NFL. (Although having a terrible coach probably doesn't help him)

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well the Baltimore Ravens team beat 2 of those QB's on the road on the way to the Superbowl and The Ravens have more wins over the past 6 seasons. So yeah, it's fine.

Beyond fixing that to its appropriate response, you're paying a guy $20 million a year to have 1 more TD than INT? Pretty sure you could draft a rookie and get the same production (for $15 million less a season). Again Ravens fans can be cool with it, but it terms of value for the dollars, its easily the worst contract in the NFL. Not even close really. Joe Flacco is in the mid 20s as far as numbers go, except wins, which is what Ravens fans will use as a retort, which of course to them means Joe Flacco and Trent Dilfer are better QBs than Dan Marino.

[GirlySports]

Detroit's offense is too standard/conventional. There is not enough depection in it. They have two good RBs but refuse to run many screens or delays.

If we use the diving term 'degree of difficulty' Stafford, Romo and Shaubb throw more difficult and unnecessary passes than anyone due to play-calling from stupid coaches. If Brady ran the same script he'd be intercepted a lot too.

Compare Brady's drives against Carolina and Miami (both on the road and failed at the goalline) to those of Stafford and Romo this week which were both at home and they couldn't even get out of their own territory. Patriots are calm in the two-minute drill due to Bellichick's play-calling. They even run sometimes for 10+ yards since the defense is playing prevent.

[SuperMatt18]

They paid what they needed to in order to keep Flacco, if they don't give him that contract another team does. He is overpaid but if there is a position in the NFL where you should overpay it is QB.

It is hard to find a QB in the NFL that can consistently help you win games. Sure Flacco may not put up the best stats but he tends to do just enough to get the win.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by DropIt

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Saints are easy to figure out lately, win at home, not applicable on the road. it's mind-bottling. And I'd be shocked if Garrett Hartley was still the starting K next year, after he missed that 2nd gimme to essentially end the game, Payton turned to the STC and looked like he said something along the lines of "I'm done with that ####### guy".

...though Carolina rattling off 8 straight W's and sitting at 10-4 is different than only needing to be 8-6 to be at least tied for first when your 2 main threats both have their QB's out for weeks, and Detroit's got the roster they do. Such a weird year lately, especially the last month. Outside of Seattle, is anyone consistently good?

[Jason14h]

Beyond fixing that to its appropriate response, you're paying a guy $20 million a year to have 1 more TD than INT? Pretty sure you could draft a rookie and get the same production (for $15 million less a season). Again Ravens fans can be cool with it, but it terms of value for the dollars, its easily the worst contract in the NFL. Not even close really. Joe Flacco is in the mid 20s as far as numbers go, except wins, which is what Ravens fans will use as a retort, which of course to them means Joe Flacco and Trent Dilfer are better QBs than Dan Marino.

So when Flacco outduels (Which he did by a large margin) Manning and Brady on the road in the playoffs on the way to a Superbowl it's the TEAM that won. But when he has bad TD numbers it's the QB's fault.

Ok at least we got that round about logic out of the way! Probably a Cowboys fans who will preach Romo's NFL history best 4th Q rating next

[Senator Clay Davis]

If you're suggesting Tony Romo is better than Joe Flacco...well...he is. There's a difference between better and more clutch. Perfect, textbook example being the Manning brothers. Eli is obviously more clutch, but only a crazy person would actually suggest Eli is better than Peyton. Or a hardcore Giants homer...and even they wouldn't suggest it. Now the Giants have to restructure Mannings contract, or possibly, cut him outright (sounds like a prelude to Flacco's future), because he's making way too much comparative to his play (which ironically Flacco is already doing).

And its the NFL, in case you haven't noticed the QBs get all the blame regardless of situation. Tony Romo made terrible errors Sunday, but they lost because Jason Garrett is an inept coach and that defense is still on pace to be the worst ever. Only a moron has one half where he averages over 7 yards a carry, then proceeds (with a 3 score lead) to run it 7 times in the whole half. Does Romo share fault? Yes. Is he the reason they lost? No. And trust me, I probably dislike Romo more than Flacco, but it is what it is.