2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If Hiller is moved. DAL, CAR and STL make the most sense to me. Dallas needs to figure out if they have something in Campbell, doesn't look like it. I am a Kari Lehtonen fan. I wonder if he would do well in Calgary.

STL knows they have something in Allen. Elliott has the right Cap and term to fit CGY's needs. Could bust badly in CGY though. numbers weren't great comparatively to Hillers.

We've been over Ward a lot recently.

Spector speculates on Hiller's future and ties him to St. Louis, perhaps in a bigger deal that involves part of St. Louis core coming back:

The key decision among Calgary’s UFA’s is Ramo, who took the crease from Hiller as the playoffs wore on this spring. The plan in Calgary is to have Joni Ortio as part of the tandem this year, and he becomes waiver eligible this season, so he has to stay in Calgary this season.

Hiller has a year left in his deal, but we’re hearing he is on the trading block, as he was at the deadline last March. Treliving may try to deal Hiller at the draft, and then find someone to share the crease with Ortio. Ramo is an unlikely signing for Calgary, as he’ll want money and term as a UFA. The safe play is to go with an Ortio-Hiller tandem this season — a solid veteran and a promising rookie — and hope that Ortio is ready to be a No. 1 next season when Hiller goes UFA.

That is providing that Hiller can swallow the possibility of playing behind Ortio as the year wears on. We’re not sure that is the case.

Possible off-season targets:

Patrik Berglund or David Backes
Calgary needs to get bigger up front. St. Louis needs to shake things up after yet another early exit this spring. The Flames should go after St. Louis in a deal that would swap Brian Elliott for Hiller, and find a way to help the Blues with their lineup makeover.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...algary-flames/

[FlameZilla]

St Louis would be crazy to trade Backes. I know they need to "shake things up", but that would be downright goofy.

That being said, if he's on the market he's on the market.

Elliott & Backes for Backlund & Hiller ++ ?? ++ what though?

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by 868904

How much does Smith make and what's the term? Gotta think that if the Coyotes can save some money here they will do it. For the Flames if they can wrangle a pick out of it too that would be best.

Cap hit of $5.67 million through 2018-19. Stinky contract and contains a nmc. Not sure if he'd come here (maybe has good relationship with treliving) but that is awful term and given the fact we have good young g in the system he might not want to become an overpaid backup. Depending on the mess that is Arizona, I'm sure they'd like to dump his contract. Would have to be significant compensation coming back if we were to consider taking it on. Doubt it would happen for that reason.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

St Louis would be crazy to trade Backes. I know they need to "shake things up", but that would be downright goofy.

That being said, if he's on the market he's on the market.

Elliott & Backes for Backlund & Hiller ++ ?? ++ what though?

Backes is a pipe dream. Berglund though much more realistic. But is he that much of an upgrade on Backlund? Size wise yes but not sure apart from that. Oshie would be interesting as well but not sure we could shake him loose from a division rival.

Elliott and berglund for Hiller and Backlund seems pretty even value straight up.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

So what is a #3 Dman in Pahaneuf who is 30 and paid like a number 1 for 6 more years worth?

RoR>>>Dion

Statistically, I see no proof Dion is a #3 D-Man.

And again, you're talking about moving up 6 top 10 spots in a great draft.

You'll hear all hype about ROR. But in the end, he's a 60 point second line centre. A team can't win with him as a #1 centre and it's very difficult for a contender to pay 7 million for a second line centre.

[BigRed]

Does anyone really think Ramo is going to get more money and term from anyone other than The cap-floor Flames? If the Flames want to keep him, they have the means. Ortio shouldn't be pushed into the starter's role too quickly.

A couple of transition years with 50/50 duties in year 3 would make sense. Give Ramo the same money as Hiller (around $4 min) for 3 years and we'll be solid IMHO. A good long stretch of stability in net, which 1 more year of Hiller will not provide.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

You'll hear all hype about ROR. But in the end, he's a 60 point second line centre. A team can't win with him as a #1 centre and it's very difficult for a contender to pay 7 million for a second line centre.

This. Good player, but we can't pay him to be a top liner when he clearly isn't. We'll need that money for Monahan and Bennett soon enough.

[sureLoss]

Murray Pam @Pammerhockey
Appears #Oilers may be prepared to give 16th overall pick if #Rangers are willing to part with Cam Talbot.

Murray Pam is a part time writer for the hockey news and metro, so take with a grain of salt.

[savardandjokinen]

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Murray Pam @Pammerhockey
Appears #Oilers may be prepared to give 16th overall pick if #Rangers are willing to part with Cam Talbot.

Murray Pam is a part time writer for the hockey news and metro, so take with a grain of salt.

I would love to see that. Great deal for the Rangers if that happened. They could then draft Samsonov (probably) and sign or trade for another back-up fairly easily.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Talbot is worth the 16th pick? Seems like a great trade for the Rangers if true.

[sureLoss]

There have been rumors that the Oilers have been targeting Talbot going back a few seasons.

But yes a mid-first for Cam Talbot does seem like over payment.

[Caged Great]

33 + something like Gernat or something would make a lot more sense than 16 unless the Oilers are getting something in addition to Talbot.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

There have been rumors that the Oilers have been targeting Talbot going back a few seasons.

But yes a mid-first for Cam Talbot does seem like over payment.

Ha, I love these types of rumors! Why would it matter if the Oilers have been targeting someone for years? It only matters if that house has not been cleaned. Would love to see Chiarelli and Lowe get owned by Sather here.

[dammage79]

MTL Re-signed Nathan Beulieu:

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 15m15 minutes ago
Nice signing by the Canadiens, locking in Beaulieu to a 2-year, $2M deal.

[stemit14]

After reading in the draft thread that the preds don't pick until 55th overall... I wonder if a few of the 2nd round picks the flames have + Granlund could be packaged to the preds for James Neal? I'm probably way off and it would cost more to get him... Plus the preds probably have no desire to trade Neal cause they always struggle getting impact forward like him. I just think he's a perfect fit for the flames... Especially on a line with either Bennett or gaudreau... Elite playmakers with a guy who probably has one of the top 5 shot releases in the NHL. Probably just a pipe dream but I think it would be a great fit.

At the same time... I would have absolutely no problem with the flames using all their picks this year and just continuing to stock the cupboards.

[Jacks]

Trading for a good backup goalie to be next year's starter is sure to work out for the oilers.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Trading for a good backup goalie to be next year's starter is sure to work out for the oilers.

3rd time's the charm, right?

[Jables16]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Backes is a pipe dream. Berglund though much more realistic. But is he that much of an upgrade on Backlund? Size wise yes but not sure apart from that. Oshie would be interesting as well but not sure we could shake him loose from a division rival.

Elliott and berglund for Hiller and Backlund seems pretty even value straight up.

Not sure if it's just pure speculation but I've seen rumblings about a big deal between St. Louis and Pittsburgh the framework of which would be Backes/Oshie/+ for Malkin/+. Not sure how feasible that is but might make sense for both teams. Neither team has been able to get over the hump in the last five year and seem in need of a shake-up/culture change. The Pens need more forward depth which Backes/Oshie would provide and the Blues need an elite forward to go with the depth they've amassed.

Again, deals like this happen so rarely I won't believe it until I see it but as far as Malkin trade rumors go it at least seems plausible.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

i think we should make a deal with the yotes. 15 OA + Poirier + Wotherspoon to the yotes for OEL.