The Tariff Thread

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Seeing a headline on CityNews right now with Carney speaking: "Canada to drop many retaliatory tariffs on US goods - PM Carney"

Sounds like they're only dropping the ones that fall under CUSMA. The retaliatory ones on steel, aluminum and autos remain while discussions with the U.S. are ongoing.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Seeing a headline on CityNews right now with Carney speaking: "Canada to drop many retaliatory tariffs on US goods - PM Carney"

Yeah, looks like he's dropping the "political pressure" tariffs... stuff like Orange Juice from Florida and basically just matching the U.S. section 232 tariffs and "not covered by CUSMA" tariffs.

[direwolf]

More news.


https://www.politico.com/newsletters...erlin-00519380

Prime Minister MARK CARNEY is headed to Germany next week.


Our colleagues in Berlin learned today in a government briefing that Chancellor FRIEDRICH MERZ will welcome Carney on Tuesday morning. The pair will talk about a variety of bilateral foreign and economic issues, including tariffs and the war in Ukraine.


Energy and Natural Resources Minister TIM HODGSON is also heading to Germany to hustle Canada’s critical minerals.


Playbook has learned Hodgson will do the rounds in Berlin on Tuesday, meeting with CEOs and executives from energy, manufacturing and defense companies. He’ll also deliver a speech to a business crowd at the Canadian embassy.


“It’s really a trade mission focused on energy and critical minerals,” said a government official with knowledge of the minister’s plans, and who was granted anonymity to speak about them.


Germany is “one of the priority markets” in the EU because it is the continent’s largest economy, the official noted.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Verified by the Globe and Mail as well. Makes sense. US continues the carve out for CUSMA goods. Make this a negotiation about CUSMA. Up to Canadians to simply not buy US goods at any price.

I find the sociology behind this interesting. Carney can remove these tarriffs and effectively give up nothing to the States because many Canadians are simply boycotting American products irrespective of cost.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Duruss

I find the sociology behind this interesting. Carney can remove these tarriffs and effectively give up nothing to the States because many Canadians are simply boycotting American products irrespective of cost.

I do wonder, are there any numbers which show how far reaching or effective the Canadian boycott of American goods actually have been?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

I do wonder, are there any numbers which show how far reaching or effective the Canadian boycott of American goods actually have been?

I read an article last week in the Wall Street Journal about alcohol in particular, and it's been punishing for many of the smaller distillers and brewers. In that scenario, it's not only the individual boycotts that are involved, but also the provinces not buying US alcohol through their liquor control boards and such. Some of the smaller distillers were getting hit hard by this, and of course, Alberta caved.

I still think that grocery store shoppers must have some impact, though. There is a lot of labelling to convince us that products are Canadian in some capacity.

[FlamesAddiction]

Maybe already posted in this thread, but there was news story a little while ago that said data indicates that since Canada started boycotting American liquor, liquor sales in general have gone down, including sales of Canadian brands. They implied that rather than choosing a Canadian option, many people just decided to cut back their alcohol consumption in general.

Which is good I guess for the overall health of the population, but not good from a revenue generating position.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...ys-2025-07-22/

Anyway, I really hate that to play ball with Trump, you need to placate him. It may be what is needed to deal with him, but it also strengthens him because you know it will be interpreted as a strong man win.

[Slava]

Trumps tariffs were struck down by the Federal Appeals Court. So, that should be interesting to watch!

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Slava

Trumps tariffs were struck down by the Federal Appeals Court. So, that should be interesting to watch!

Trump and his cronies will certainly have a meltdown over this, but in the end it won't matter. They'll appeal it to the Supreme Court who will allow the tariffs to continue, and nothing will change.


https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump...ates-8-29-2025

A federal appeals court ruled Friday that President Donald Trump had no legal right to impose sweeping tariffs but left in place for now his effort to build a protectionist wall around the American economy.


The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled Trump wasn’t legally allowed to declare national emergencies and impose import taxes on almost every country on earth, largely upholding a May decision by a specialized federal trade court in New York.


But the court tossed out a part of that ruling striking down the tariffs immediately, allowing his administration time to appeal to the Supreme Court.

[Slava]

Yeah, this was always the outcome, but it’s still amusing all the same!

[TherapyforGlencross]

All trade talks with Canada have been postponed. Ford set him off with the add, I guess.

[direwolf]

Dude is such a petulant toddler, lol. What a f'n jackass.


I predict that Carney will give him a call in the morning and the trade talks will be back on.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-...o-ad-9.6951469

U.S. President Donald Trump says he is terminating all trade negotiations with Canada over an advertisement by the Ontario government that uses the late U.S. president Ronald Reagan's own words to send an anti-tariff message to American audiences.
In a late-night post to his Truth Social platform, Trump attacked the ad, which he attributed to Canada rather than Ontario, as fraudulent and fake.


"TARIFFS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ECONOMY, OF THE U.S.A." Trump wrote. "Based on their egregious behavior, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED."

[Manhattanboy]

Yup Trump has ended all trade talks.

https://apple.news/A3eu7dzRCRfi-GzwZi81dwg

[GranteedEV]

you just know the PP riders are gonna latch onto this like the dumdums they are

[5abi]

Pp is useless, his only angle is blame Trudeau

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Dude is such a petulant toddler, lol. What a f'n jackass.


I predict that Carney will give him a call in the morning and the trade talks will be back on.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-...o-ad-9.6951469

More stock market manipulation attempts.

[Drak]

Trump has no serious intentions with Canadian trade negotiations. An ad run in a province by a premier wouldn’t have much of an effect on a normal president in normal times. But Trump lashes out at the entire country. Any excuse will do. Because he wants to destroy our economy and annex us.

Reagan was correct, though.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Drak

An ad run in a province by a premier wouldn’t have much of an effect on a normal president in normal times.

I believe this ad is running in the States.

See the anti-tariff ad Doug Ford has been airing in the U.S.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I believe this ad is running in the States.

See the anti-tariff ad Doug Ford has been airing in the U.S.

Ah yeah that makes sense of course.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Trump is currently sounding off on Truth Social about Canada.