Ongoing YYCCC (Chu + Farkas) Transgressions Threat

[RedHot25]

Yeah I'm trying to clarify what Turek would exactly like to see things set up as.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

This was left on my wife’s car at market mall today. Just so thankful that our ‘Mayor Elect’ was able to get the Stampede back for us all….




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Maybe he meant “mayor-reject.”

[Jiri Hrdina]

What is that a picture of bottom right?

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Are you suggesting a 250k condo owner should pay the same tax as a 5 million house?

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

You realize the person in the condo likey makes much less than the person in the expensive house right?

The percentage of tax to income is likely pretty similar, so they have the same incentive. Just because the total amount they pay is smaller doesn't mean they pay less.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What is that a picture of bottom right?

An open lock.

[craigwd]

So who the heck is Teddy Ogbonna and why is a PAC spending actual money supporting him and his ####-ty campaign and amateur looking website?

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

How so?

I genuinely don't understand this statement. I must be missing something, because it seems to imply a lot of assumptions in it to me.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

Ok, so it's just an issue of getting the 99% to support the wants of the 1% then? That should be a slam dunk.

[calf]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the way property taxes are determined (the structure, not mill rates/property values) is provincially legislated too, so the city is handcuffed in how it determines/collects them.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

That's not true - that's just an assumption. Someone who owns a $5 mill home may be absolutely comfortable with their life and have a high degree of financial freedom, able to afford such a luxury. There are likely many people in Calgary in this position. Government spending has nothing to do with this.

Your statement is effectively saying that people who have higher-value homes are hawkish fiscal conservatives - possibly bordering on libertarian - with tax issues and antagonistic towards government spending. This is a pretty large generalization to make without evidence.

[The Fisher Account]

All this whining from the UCP about how unfair transfer payments are with the Feds. The real outrage from Calgrians should be the transfer payments we pay to the Province and how unfair that is.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by calf

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the way property taxes are determined (the structure, not mill rates/property values) is provincially legislated too, so the city is handcuffed in how it determines/collects them.

This is correct. Taxation as well as assessment (which determines how those taxes are distributed) are both governed by provincial legislation -- it's not like a municipality can just decide to do things their own way.

I would add to the poster who is paying $800/month in property taxes -- the owner of the same $1.3M property would be paying $1,038 a month in property taxes if they lived in Edmonton. That difference shrinks a bit due to the relatively difference in property values (as average houses prices in Calgary are higher than Edmonton), but as a whole, property taxes in Calgary are pretty reasonable if not low.

[burn_this_city]

Imagine living in a home at least 3x the median and thinking somehow life is unfair when you pay your property taxes.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by #-3

Also I'm a little confused, do property taxes pay for nurses? I thought they were provincial employees? This is an honest question, I don't know.

There's a provincial portion of property taxes (the 'Education Property Tax').

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by #-3

>.. do property taxes pay for nurses? I thought they were provincial employees? This is an honest question, I don't know.

No, that’s provincial.

[Fuzz]

Anyone think that Chu, if he loses, will be gross enough to sue "HH" for "killing" his career?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What they should actually do is remove the provincial portion and have the province pull it on their own (through income tax or PST or whatever).

If only to make clear to people who is fully responsible for their property tax.

Off topic given the new thread but this is one part of gondeks platform that I really like and separates her from lots of the platitudes everyone else has. One of her main pillars is how dumb it is that the province takes 40% then the city has to go to the province hat in hand for money for big projects. It doesn’t really make sense and I like that she is willing to raise this issue.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

You're coming off as very entitled and out of touch. Many condo dwellers feel their tax burden just as much if not more than those in multi-million dollar homes. And if the tax burden is really too much on that 5m dollar house, then just sell it and buy a smaller house for frig sake

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I am suggesting that someone that lives in a 250k condo has little or no incentive to curtail government spending and taxes as someone that lives in a 5m dollar home.

EDIT: No need to pile on as this is clearly a "hot" take