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Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
^ So basically AI told you what you wanted to hear, without a great deal of attention to accuracy.
A ZSR of 50% does not constitute "getting buried" lol. Backlund's is 31% and Coleman's is 35.5%. That is getting buried.
Zary is not, and never has been, "the Flames' most used defensive-utility winger". That is Coleman.
That sentence is hilarious. You should see the problems with it on your own.
Transition is literally the ability to move the puck into the offensive zone (or out of the defensive zone). By definition, you cannot use transition ability in the offensive zone. This sentence is nonsense. (basically, if Zary is primarily a transition forward than using him in a way where he spends most of his time transitioning the puck through the neutral zone would constitute using him correctly, wouldn't it?)
Also, citation needed on that 92nd percentile remark.
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I don't recall saying I have a position one way or the other. I asked it to compare Zary to Mctavish using NHL Edge and Natural stat Stick (24 different inputs) . Here is what it says to your points:
The reason the "bust" talk feels premature is that his micro-stats show he is working hard in the wrong areas of the ice. Citation's Per NHL Edge data for March 2026:
- The Neutral Zone Trap: Zary is in the 92nd percentile for time spent in the Neutral Zone (18.7%). The rebuttal there is that while transition is moving the puck through the NZ, he is currently spending significantly more time there than in the Offensive Zone, where he is in the bottom 50th percentile (40.8%). He is effectively the team's designated carrier, but the plays are dying before they reach high-danger areas.
- The Deployment Gap: Look at a guy like Mason McTavish for contrast. He has 64th percentile O-Zone time and 84th percentile NZ time. He gets to stay in the zone because his system sustains pressure. Zary is in the 74th percentile for skating distance (155.9 miles) because he’s constantly having to reload and carry the puck back through the middle because the O-zone possession isn't sticking.
- The Finish Problem: The "nonsense" comment on transition misses the point of the bottleneck. Transition gets you to the dance; the system has to let you dance. The Flames currently rank 32nd in the NHL in goals per game (2.44) and 32nd in high-danger conversion (13.8%). Zary is successfully transitioning the puck (hence the 92nd percentile volume), but he’s entering an offensive system that is statistically the worst in the league at finishing.
The Bennett comparison stands because it's a player with high-end transition metrics and elite skating volume spinning his wheels in a system that can't score. If he is a bust, it is because he can't finish. If he is a breakout candidate, it is because he is an elite puck mover on a team with no finish. So one or the other, hard to say.
That's what it thinks. I have to meet some colleagues for dinner so I wont be able to provide more of its analysis but its interesting if accurate.