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[Kybosh]

If they went to the trouble of bringing all those people back to the prison, I'm 100% sure that they would have also loaded up the bus with supplies from Woodbury. They just didn't show it.

[fredr123]

Rick and his group ran into the loan survivor of the Governor's onslaught. They know he went off the deep end and they know he drove off with a pair of henchmen. He's not back at Woodbury so where could he be? Hopefully not back at the prison trying to finish the job...

The final scene could have been the convoy of vehicles returning from Woodbury with the bus load of old people and kids. The prison comes into view and it's burning to the effing ground. So that's where the Governor went...

Credits roll.

[Thor]

Quite dissapointed with the last half of this season, this storyline dragged on for way too long and still is open with the end of this season.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

But if you want a fortress the prison is better. So much easier to improve the defences.

Plus the Governor would know Woodbury like the back of his hand. That's a pretty big strategic advantage.

[Rubber Ducky]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

So the Governor finally snaps, that part I saw realistic as this guy is nuts, but why would his henchmen not gun him down, this guy is clearly not stable, you could be next. And instead of going back to Woodbury they just take off, no closure on the Governor at all. After fricken 14 or whatever it was episodes of build up he just leaves in a truck, and we don't even get to see where he goes.

With no closure on the Governor, he can remain the wild card for Season 4. Obviously we haven't seen the last of the Gov. Some people are lamenting the lack of a cliffhanger for this season, but to me, the Governor going off the deep end and disappearing into the wild is the cliffhanger.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

Plus the Governor would know Woodbury like the back of his hand. That's a pretty big strategic advantage.

Plus if this season has taught us anything, it's that you can slip in and out of Woodbury easier than a hooker during fleet week.

[peter12]

So, when are they actually going to find a stable food source. They've got about 12 additional useless mouths to feed now. Also, I hope they looted that convoy. There were about 20 guns, plus heavy weaponry just lying around.

[undercoverbrother]

One thing I will say about last night, was I liked the response of the Gov'rs army when they came under contact. It was a pretty realistice response to that type of scenario. The majority of people #### themselves and run.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by peter12

So, when are they actually going to find a stable food source. They've got about 12 additional useless mouths to feed now. Also, I hope they looted that convoy. There were about 20 guns, plus heavy weaponry just lying around.

If, IF, they want they can grow food at the prison.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by peter12

So, when are they actually going to find a stable food source. They've got about 12 additional useless mouths to feed now. Also, I hope they looted that convoy. There were about 20 guns, plus heavy weaponry just lying around.

I thought that's what the old people and children were for. Harvest their organs for precious nutrients.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Certainly not the outcome I was expecting for the finale. I thought it was quite good they way they gave the impression Rick and co had left the prison. You knew something was going to happen when the Govenor and his group entered the actual prison but I thought they would just get swarmed or something as you could hear howling from zombies coming from the depths. To turn that into a trap was well done. VERY surprised that only Glenn and Maggie stayed behind to chase them out, very ballsy.

The prison does make far more sense than woodbury at this point. Sure, it doesn't have the luxury or glamar but what it does have in spades is security which is really the greatest luxury to have in a doomsday scenario. With the size of the group they have now, more than enough people to help clean out and make it feel more like a home.

[ken0042]

I re-watched the scene where the Woodbury people were in the prison. There were flash bombs in closed spaces, alarms blaring (keeping in mind these people probably have gone a year without hearing mechanical sounds), zombies approaching and the resulting gunfire. All it takes in that panic for one person to yell "Let's get out of here!" and they would all follow.

Then they go outside and are being shot at- time to get out. I think the Gov thought they were going to fall back a bit and re-group; not a full on retreat.

[Yamer]

As someone mentioned earlier, this really felt like a mid-season finale and totally seemed to under-deliver for a full season finale.

I don't mind the direction, but it was as anti-climactic as you can get. Also, I had never been seriously invested in Andrea's character - as a suspect a lot of fans weren't - so her death didn't have near the impact that the writers surely intended.

Also, I'll echo sentiments that the scene with Carl murdering that guy didn't resonate the way I'm certain that it was intended.

[gottabekd]

The pacing was just way off all season. Fewer episodes in the season would have helped that. I think they rushed the first Woodbury attack so that they could have that mid-season finale cliffhanger. Also, maybe there can't be a slow build on The Governor's character for the viewers, but at least for say, Andrea, that could have been done better. "He kidnapped and abused my old friends, kept fish tanks full of walker heads, and his zombified daughter on a leash. Maybe he's still not all bad, though. I'm going back to him".

The scene with Carl shooting the kid was pretty ambiguous. I don't think it makes him out to be a cold blooded killer. In Carl's mind, he did the right thing. And with the way the kid was hesitating, it's hard to say he was wrong. If anything it shows Hershel being soft.

With Andrea and Michonne, I really thought they were going to kiss. Especially after everyone else left the room. Oh well.

That woman they saved, what was it, Karen? Doesn't she have a little resemblance to Lori? Hmm...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by gottabekd

The scene with Carl shooting the kid was pretty ambiguous. I don't think it makes him out to be a cold blooded killer. In Carl's mind, he did the right thing. And with the way the kid was hesitating, it's hard to say he was wrong. If anything it shows Hershel being soft.

..

That's kind of the point.

[gottabekd]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That's kind of the point.

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Someone before was saying that maybe that scene didn't convey the message the writers intended. I'm saying that it was purposely a little ambiguous. It puts you in Carl and Herhsel's shoes, and you have to decide for yourself if Carl did the right thing.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by gottabekd

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Someone before was saying that maybe that scene didn't convey the message the writers intended. I'm saying that it was purposely a little ambiguous. It puts you in Carl and Herhsel's shoes, and you have to decide for yourself if Carl did the right thing.

ah, sorry totally missread your post.

The scene to me shows how far Carl has dropped from pre-ZA. To him it is clear, "kill of be killed".

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by gottabekd

Yea, that's what I'm saying. Someone before was saying that maybe that scene didn't convey the message the writers intended. I'm saying that it was purposely a little ambiguous. It puts you in Carl and Herhsel's shoes, and you have to decide for yourself if Carl did the right thing.

Dude was part of a group that was attacking your camp. Sure, he seemed to be retreating and stumbled on your group, but what do you do with the guy if you don't shoot him? Take him prisoner? Let him join your group? Way easier dead.

[GoinAllTheWay]

To take that a bit further, I wasn't honestly left with the impression that he was trying to close the gap between himself and Carl. How many times have we seen a show where the guys all "alright...im putting it down....easy does it...." all the while getting closer and closer and BAM! grab the guy....Rick did the same thing to Shane. I would have done the same thing. Guy is ordered to drop his rifle but instead he tries to close the gap, how was Carl to know he wasn't going to try to grab him once close enough?

And at the end of the day, the guy was there to try to kill the prison group. 100% the right call IMO.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Anyone catch the call-in guy from Chattanooga on the Talking Dead? Said his name was Bob, breathed heavily a couple times and starting reading this messed up poem for a while about the dead rising before either hanging up or getting cut off? That was pretty awesome lol.