10-17-2017, 12:08 PM
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Uhhh, Scheifele's rookie season was fine and his sophomore season he had 50 points as a 21 year old. Not exactly a candidate for a team exemplifying patience.
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10-17-2017, 12:10 PM
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#3182
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No but if the Jets had not been patient with Scheifele imagine the disaster that would be now. Sometimes centres take longer to learn their craft, Bennett will be fine.
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Don't compare the two. Scheifele got better every single season and showed progression something Bennett hasn't done yet. His point total rose every year while Bennett's dropped alongside his play.
Pointing to one of the best players in the league is disingenuous. Better comparison would be Yakupov.
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10-17-2017, 12:12 PM
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#3183
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Wow people think Bennett is better than RNH? That's laughable.
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10-17-2017, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Wow people think Bennett is better than RNH? That's laughable.
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He's not yet but he will be.
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10-17-2017, 12:44 PM
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#3185
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Wow people think Bennett is better than RNH? That's laughable.
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Better right now, vs more valuable (which includes things like potential, and salary), are two very different things.
Not sure why this needs to be stated so often.
No way in hell would the Flames trade Bennett for RNH. And rightly so.
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10-17-2017, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog
He's not yet but he will be.
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He has the same chance of being better that Reinhart has.
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10-17-2017, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Better right now, vs more valuable (which includes things like potential, and salary), are two very different things.
Not sure why this needs to be stated so often.
No way in hell would the Flames trade Bennett for RNH. And rightly so.
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RNH made the world cup team and looked great. Bennett has a long ways to go.
I'd make that trade in a heart beat. The Oilers would not.
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10-17-2017, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Uhhh, Scheifele's rookie season was fine and his sophomore season he had 50 points as a 21 year old. Not exactly a candidate for a team exemplifying patience.
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And this is Bennett's 21 year old year. So let's be patient and see how he ends up right?
Don't believe Scheiffele missed a year of development to injury like Bennett did.
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10-17-2017, 12:48 PM
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#3189
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Don't compare the two. Scheifele got better every single season and showed progression something Bennett hasn't done yet. His point total rose every year while Bennett's dropped alongside his play.
Pointing to one of the best players in the league is disingenuous. Better comparison would be Yakupov.
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10-17-2017, 12:52 PM
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#3190
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
RNH made the world cup team and looked great. Bennett has a long ways to go.
I'd make that trade in a heart beat. The Oilers would not.
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You might not. But I would bet that the Oilers would jump on it.
When they trade RNH this summer, it will be for another Strome type. Because they won't be able to take similar cap back, so it will essentially be a salary dump.
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10-17-2017, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Better right now, vs more valuable (which includes things like potential, and salary), are two very different things.
Not sure why this needs to be stated so often.
No way in hell would the Flames trade Bennett for RNH. And rightly so.
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Only if Edmonton ate some salary and took a Brouwer type of contract.
RNH is better then Bennett, but he's not a 6 million dollar player.
Plus Edmonton is getting strung over a very large barrel with their cap so any team that is going to trade for RNH is not going to do the suppossed stanley cup favorites any favors.
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10-17-2017, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You might not. But I would bet that the Oilers would jump on it.
When they trade RNH this summer, it will be for another Strome type. Because they won't be able to take similar cap back, so it will essentially be a salary dump.
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10-17-2017, 01:00 PM
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#3193
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Only if Edmonton ate some salary and took a Brouwer type of contract.
RNH is better then Bennett, but he's not a 6 million dollar player.
Plus Edmonton is getting strung over a very large barrel with their cap so any team that is going to trade for RNH is not going to do the suppossed stanley cup favorites any favors.
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They can't though - that's the point.
The Oilers are going to have to dump RNH's salary next summer. Period.
Or they are going to have to let Maroon walk and give Nurse away.
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10-17-2017, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
He has the same chance of being better that Reinhart has.
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In my opinion you are wrong. He will also be better than Reinhart.
Patience isn't your thing is it?
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10-17-2017, 01:01 PM
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Both Reinhart and Bennett seem to be underperforming in similar ways, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that type of trade if it ever comes to it, as both carry a similar amount of potential and risk.
I haven't really been following along, but would Galchenyuk be a viable trade option? He sounds like a guy in need of a fresh start.
Having said that, I'd rather try Bennett at wing before we seriously consider trading him.
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10-17-2017, 01:06 PM
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RNH doesn't make sense because of the cap issues as described above, but I don't think either team immediately hangs up on a Bennett/Reinhart trade proposal. The wildcard in that scenario is that Reinhart hasn't signed his second deal. Would it be a bridge? Tough to say.
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10-17-2017, 01:07 PM
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Galchenyuk would be beneath Gaudreau and Tkachuk in the LW depth... So essentially a 3rd line C for a 3rd line LW for us? Doesn't make sense. Yeah, you could put Galchenyuk with Backlund and Frolik and have Tkachuk with Gaudreau and Monahan, but I feel like our team is much better with Bennett as the 3rd line center.
I don't understand why we would trade Bennett when he has yet to score this year. Who is even going to want him? We would be selling him low. The best thing we can do is hope that he gets out of this slump either this year or the next. It's a good thing we bridged him to see how he fares for 2 years.
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10-17-2017, 01:13 PM
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#3198
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Definitely try Bennett on wing for at least 6 months to a year before we abandon him..
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10-17-2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog
In my opinion you are wrong. He will also be better than Reinhart.
Patience isn't your thing is it?
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They were drafted in the same season, what makes you think he will be better than Reinhart? Not that Reinhart is much better because he's struggling as well but I see the potential as equal in both players.
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10-17-2017, 01:26 PM
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Bennett and Reinhart are both sort of wandering the desert right now. Wonder who will make it out and live up to their draft status.
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