2011 Canadian Election Thread

[3 Justin 3]

I can't believe the numbers the NDP are getting.

Me thinks I'll have to vacate Canada in a few years. If he is ever PM I am bailing. I will have no part of a country run by that moron.

[SebC]

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[Ark2]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

I can't believe the numbers the NDP are getting.

Me thinks I'll have to vacate Canada in a few years. If he is ever PM I am bailing. I will have no part of a country run by that moron.

I'm thinking the same thing. The thought that people in this country could be so stupid is what's really disappointing.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'm thinking the same thing. The thought that people in this country could be so stupid is what's really disappointing.

I'm blaming the youth vote. Seriously what's so appealing for someone who is in their 20s about voting for a party to double entitlements for older people at the expense of their future earnings.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I'm blaming the youth vote. Seriously what's so appealing for someone who is in their 20s about voting for a party to double entitlements for older people at the expense of their future earnings.

Have you met kids these days? They are complete ######s. I know, I am part of the Youth vote.

I was talking to my group at school (Mt.Royal) about what idiots Ignatief and Layton were and the one guy says "I'm voting Liberal just to cancel out your Conservative vote".

Like FFS, really???

My other buddy says he is voting Green because he doesn't think any of the big 3 should win (which is fine, Green won't do anything anyway).

I just don't think the Youth understand politics or economics, at all.

But, I am blaming Quebec and Ontario. I still think the West will clean up for the Conservatives.

[HeartsOfFire]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'm thinking the same thing. The thought that people in this country could be so stupid is what's really disappointing.

The combination of your statement and your signature is mind-blowing.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I'm blaming the youth vote. Seriously what's so appealing for someone who is in their 20s about voting for a party to double entitlements for older people at the expense of their future earnings.

Honestly, the NDP are the only party that campaigns at universities. Not having much sway over the youth vote is really the fault of the Conservatives and the Liberals.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire

The combination of your statement and your signature is mind-blowing.

How so? My sig is the result of a bet that I lost. No one was happier than me when Darryl got canned. In a week and a half, I'll be allowed to get rid of this stupid thing.

[HeartsOfFire]

Oh! Well then... joke's on me!

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

I'm blaming the youth vote. Seriously what's so appealing for someone who is in their 20s about voting for a party to double entitlements for older people at the expense of their future earnings.

Maybe, just maybe, those of us that vote NDP are not voting solely out of self-interest and greed?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Maybe, just maybe, those of us that vote NDP are not voting solely out of self-interest and greed?

Make rational arguements not emotional ones.

[Matty81]

Man I dislike the NDP but reminding myself that a guy who thinks everybody with different political viewpoints are "######s" is leaving the country if they get in will lessen the blow for a half hour or so.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Maybe, just maybe, those of us that vote NDP are not voting solely out of self-interest and greed?

LOL

What a crock. So people not wanting our economy to get decimated by Jack Layton's idiocy are voting solely out of self interest and greed? Here's a fact for you: unemployment, inflation and a shrinking economy is bad for everyone, not just the rich. I get that you are of the mind that the government has a responsibility to take your money and give it to those that "need" it, but there are those of us that would rather the government not do that and then we can give back by donating our time and money ourselves.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Man I dislike the NDP but reminding myself that a guy who thinks everybody with different political viewpoints are "######s" is leaving the country if they get in will lessen the blow for a half hour or so.

Truthfully, this is just frustration coming through. NDP voters may or may not be ######s, but it's pretty clear that they don't take important issues seriously, and, considering the stakes, that is ######ed.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SebC

Catching up here... would've loved to have gotten into a debate on environmental policy with the NDPers about 30 pages back, but too late now.

The reality is that it's the laws surrounding prostitution that create these environments. In Amsterdam, in order to rent a window a woman has to show ID proving she has EU citizenship and is not underage. And the room has a panic button that calls the cops. The laws that prevent that kind of system being used in Canada are in place largely because of Christian conservatives like you.

The Liberals have had multiple majorities over the decades to have been able to change this law as well. But yeah...its all about Christian Conservatives. I mean...really?

Harper prorogued against the will of the elected parliament. That's where the problem lies for me.

So only a majority would be able to prorogue in your world?

As that's waht it would take for the willof the elected parliament unless a minority also has the votes from elsewhere...and that simply wouldnt be the case in most of the instances being discussed.

Laugh.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Ark2

LOL

What a crock. So people not wanting our economy to get decimated by Jack Layton's idiocy are voting solely out of self interest and greed? Here's a fact for you: unemployment, inflation and a shrinking economy is bad for everyone, not just the rich. I get that you are of the mind that the government has a responsibility to take your money and give it to those that "need" it, but there are those of us that would rather the government not do that and then we can give back by donating our time and money ourselves.

Actually you don't even have to go there. All the promises for senoirs are essentially taking from working people. 5% of senoirs are below the poverty line while 10% of working people aged 35-49 are below. So in reality it's not even redistributing wealth correctly. It just has better optics picturing older people as needing money and support vs. people who look young. Another reason why this NDP campaign is running on emotion and not on reason. It's really easy to start hammering on people who want taxes low and a good business climate as being 'greedy', but in reality it's just people who acknowledge that eocnomically the country is better off when private investment is driving job growth.

[Devils'Advocate]

The optics are bad because those 35-49 are likely able to get training, improve themselves, get a better job... people in their 80s are unlikely to be headed back to work to improve their station in life.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

The optics are bad because those 35-49 are likely able to get training, improve themselves, get a better job... people in their 80s are unlikely to be headed back to work to improve their station in life.

?????? Are you really able to get a better job and training if you have a family to support and you're already well past 30?

We already have free health care, generous CPP, and GIS already and improved GIS is even in the Conservative Platform. There's no need to jump on the orange bandwagon and the lunacy baggage that comes with it.

I'd welcome a discussion of how the dollars and cents work under the NDP plan, because quite frankly even Ignatieff knows it doesn't fly!

[CaptainCrunch]

The young people that are voting for the NDP fail to realize that if the NDP get into power that its their generation and their kids generations that will have to pay for all of those promises.

Its the shiny apple theory of politics.

[HeartsOfFire]

A Conservative majority would be good for the economy and for Canada. I personally don't dispute that.

For me individually, a Conservative majority would be very bad, assuming they try once more to amend the Copyright act along the lines of Bill C-32. A conservative majority government that pushed through a Bill C-32 would turn me from a law-abiding Canadian into a criminal.

I cannot support any government that wants to treat me like a thief.

Criminalizing the circumvention of Technological Protection Measures on digital media put in place to prevent copying purchased goods--even for private use--would be very bad for me.