[Trade] Flames trade Tanev (double retention) to Dallas for 2nd, cond. 3rd, Grushnikov

[mile]

From McKeens Head West Scout:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763017147629142446


Maybe sign Tanev in the summer to mentor him? haha

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

https://thehockeywriters.com/stars-t...-24-preseason/

This sounds like a Kylington partner.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So we traded a 34 Yo Tanev for a 2nd and 20 Yo Tanev like prospect? Not too bad.

and I'm sure Conroy prob asked Tanev what sort of chance he would re-sign with us before he left.

Because if he is coming back I would trade Rasmus too.

[Caged Great]

Love this trade. Getting another solid defensive defender is what this team needs. Frankly the flames have done an excellent job at rounding out the prospect pool especially on defense and getting additional picks always helps.

[SuperMatt18]

Maple Leafs get: D Mark Giordano, F Colin Blackwell
Kraken get: 2022 second-round pick, 2023 second-round pick, 2024 third-round pick

Return is similar to this, and without Blackwell.

Avs get: D Josh Manson
Ducks get: D Drew Helleson, 2023 second-round pick

About the same as this deal.

David Savard would probably the last time a 1st moved for a defensive dman like Tanev...and I think everyone called that an overpay.

Overall in the end an overpay of a 1st would have been nice, but the return is probably fair, which is fine.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Sandman

This makes me worried about the return we will get for Hanifin.

Not me.

Hanifin is the better defender, younger and super durable.

If anything this should reassure you to the extent that we will at least be getting back a first plus a solid prospect (late first rounder or second rounder).

I think the Lindholm deal is still a very good comparable for Hanifin.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So we traded a 34 Yo Tanev for a 2nd and 20 Yo Tanev like prospect? Not too bad.

Yup. Maybe even a 3rd on top of that.

Not "omgwtf" like the lindholm return but hard to argue that isn't solid and just about in line with realistic expectations.

[Two Fivenagame]

CRUSHnikov!!

[Jiri Hrdina]

Manson is a spot on comparable

[Cortez]

The names Stankoven and Bourque being thrown around in a Tanev deal was always utterly absurd.
A second-rounder and prospect feels about right. Would have been nice to see some more favorable conditions on the additional pick- but overall it seems like a fine deal.

[CSharp]

Wow, this is either underwhelming or Tanev totally overhyped!

[looooob]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

We should never forget: We're selling because our players aren't very good, and the team isn't very good because of it.

This is not a great return, but it is better than nothing - and that's an improvement for this organization.

As Flames fans, our hopes often lead us away from the cold, harsh truth of our reality.

well even not very good teams have good players


I think both Tanev (shutdown D) and Lindholm (two way center) are good examples of their player type- but they are rentals. I think the returns have been fair

[GioforPM]

What’s happened on the last two trades is a big increase in D prospects, which the Flames were light on. They won’t all pan out, maybe. But more bullets = more chances some will.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by butterfly

He’s still talking to Steinberg. Likes Grushnikov because Grushnikov knows who he is as a player. Amateur and pro scouts liked him.

Given how good our scouting staff has been I will take their read on this guy over those overreacting

[fatso]

Stars acquire Tanev.

Oettinger just became the best goalie in the league.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

This sounds like a Kylington partner.

Eventually yeah. Since Shilly likes the right side anyways.

But full marks to the Shilly/Pachal pairing, they're light-years better than Oesterle/Gilbert/DeSimone

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Wow, this is either underwhelming or Tanev totally overhyped!

Personally I thought Tanev was worth a 1st, but that doesn’t necessarily mean this is a bad deal either. It’s basically 2x 2nds. Seems fair to me.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by browna

A pick two years from now the mid 80s isn't going to make my cheer for Dallas.

Why not? Stars making the finals would be great

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Wow, this is either underwhelming or Tanev totally overhyped!

Or your expectations for a 34 year old UFA are wildly out of whack.

[OldSam]

Love how a lot of you understand how things work better than Connie. For a rental, not bad. Let's see what happens.