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			As someone wit no financial interest in this arena, I'm happy for the city to get a big development like this. Seems like a potentially great improvement to the city infrastructure.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-25-2023, 04:45 PM
			
			
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			At that price tag Rogers place is gonna look like a glorified community arena by comparison.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				$900 million of tax dollars for this?  I hope the fiscal Conservatives are up in arms.  What a huge amount of money for this... 
			
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$330 million from province is about two years worth of consulting fees that the province gives to E&Y.
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			Now here's our dear savior SMITH. Woooo!!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				$900 million of tax dollars for this?  I hope the fiscal Conservatives are up in arms.  What a huge amount of money for this... 
			
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What exactly is "this".  Tons of dough for sure, but I don't fully understand the scope. Have they explained?
 
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			How does $537M compare with the city's old deal, both in terms of $ and scope for that $?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Man after half a decade of this drama I just wish people would STFU about the politics and enjoy getting a new arena. At least it will be fun.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Yikes. $330m from the province is a lot. How do they plan to recoup their investment? Magic?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Does this $1.2 billion come with a few playoff series wins or...?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				27% paid for by the private sector, 73% paid by the taxpayer. 
			
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It literally says the arena costs 1.2b
 
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			Are the jail chains around her neck intentional?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I'll wait for details before dusting off the pitchfork
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I hope someone gets on the phone with the folks at MGM Resorts ASAP to see if they want to be involved in this. I remember they wanted to participate about 10 years ago which would have been awesome. I would love to be able to rack up MGM Rewards tier points locally.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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It probably buys some, and loses some. That said, I don't get the sense there are many undecided voters remaining.  
 
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				Yikes. $330m from the province is a lot. How do they plan to recoup their investment? Magic? 
			
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In 2019 dollars it's about $58.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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