01-08-2022, 04:35 PM
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#301
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
Sorry...but so what? His own SJ teammates publicly came out and said they didnt want him back.
I dont really care so much about his points if he sewers the morale of the entire team.
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Tony Diangelo was hated by his entire team, he fought at least one of them...Canes seem to be doing okay.
All I'm saying is let's not pretend he is a bad player or something. If he wasn't an idiot SJ would be thrilled with his play on the ice.
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01-08-2022, 04:44 PM
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#302
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Been a while since I've paid any attention to Kane. Is he just the NHL's Dennis Rodman that could be really effective if he had a strong coach and leadership group? Or is the guy just too far gone
Not at all suggesting we sign him either way, just curious if there's a possible redemption story or if he's KHL bound
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01-08-2022, 05:21 PM
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#304
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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This latest situation makes me really wonder if he's mentally disabled? How is it possible to continuously screw up (if the story is true)? Certainly the team could be looking for any excuse to terminate given the previous f-ups, but he always seems to outdo his prior mistake (call it what you will). The guy is an entitled idiot and I just can't explain how he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Crazy.
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01-08-2022, 05:33 PM
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#305
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
Flames need his goal scoring. League min for 45 games? There’s no down side.
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Hahahahaha!
"No down side," he says.
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01-08-2022, 05:36 PM
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#306
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Franchise Player
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I shouldn't be surprised that SJ found a way to get out of this mess of a contract.
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01-08-2022, 05:51 PM
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#307
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Been a while since I've paid any attention to Kane. Is he just the NHL's Dennis Rodman that could be really effective if he had a strong coach and leadership group? Or is the guy just too far gone
Not at all suggesting we sign him either way, just curious if there's a possible redemption story or if he's KHL bound
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This is exactly what San Jose said when they brought him into their organization.
As strong a room as they had, Kane was able to rip it apart.
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01-08-2022, 06:49 PM
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#308
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A thing that makes that contract even more absurd is that it cost the Sharks a 1st.
They acquired Kane for a reasonable rental price of a 2nd+4th+fringe prospect, but the 2nd upgraded to a 1st (lottery protected) when he re-signed.
SJ managed a run to the conf. finals by virtue of that 4 goal powerplay in game 7 against VGK so it ended up 29OA. VGK picked Peyton Krebs at 17 (though I think SJ might have ended up around 21st depending how everything else played out in the alternate reality).
SJ essentially traded down 25-35 spots for the privilege of signing this terrible deal.
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01-08-2022, 06:56 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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If what Friedman just said is correct (that if SJ terminates his contract there would be several teams interested in signing him), NHL GM's are complete dummies for hoping for results at any cost. The guy has played out his welcome in so many situations and still they want to give him a chance, yikes.
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01-08-2022, 07:21 PM
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#310
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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So for people that may be confused or not sure what's going on. Timeline as to where we're at. Some of which has been already mentioned.
The San Jose Sharks have placed forward Evander Kane on unconditional waivers with the intent to terminate the remainder of his $49 million US, seven-year contract.
The Sharks said Saturday that they made the move because Kane violated COVID-19 protocols in the AHL where he is currently playing for the Barracuda. The team said it would have no further comment.
The termination of the contract will cost Kane about $22.9 million remaining from the contract he signed in May 2018.
"We are aware of the Sharks' decision to put Evander on waivers for contract termination," said Kane's agent, Dan Milstein. "If he clears, we will file a grievance. The Sharks do not have sufficient grounds for taking this action."
The NHLPA issued a statement on Twitter saying the union also "intends to challenge any such action by filing a grievance."
The move ends a monthslong saga regarding Kane's status with the Sharks. He faced accusations of gambling on games, purposely losing games he bet on, as well as sexual and physical abuse from estranged wife Anna over the summer.
The NHL investigated and found no evidence to support those allegations but did suspend Kane for 21 games for submitting a fake COVID-19 vaccination card.
When the suspension was lifted at the end of November, the Sharks placed Kane on waivers and sent him to the AHL when he was unclaimed.
Kane had eight points in five games with San Jose Barracuda in the AHL before being placed in the AHL's COVID-19 protocols on Dec. 22.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/covid-roun...-nhl-1.6308682
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01-08-2022, 07:33 PM
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#311
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
What does this mean money wise? Are they paying him out or do they not have to pay him ?
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If Mike Richards got paid after smuggling narcotics with no prescription across the border I suspect Kane will get paid in the end.
And for those who want this complete tool anywhere near the flames need to give their heads a shake.
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01-08-2022, 07:38 PM
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#312
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Giving a problem child a second chance is not a bad thing. No one could expect what he would do next.
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Except when San Jose signed him, he already had several issues and track record of being a shady person. I am sure he was already on the "do not acquire" list for several teams when they signed him.
They went for low-hanging fruit and should have to eat it now.
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01-08-2022, 08:04 PM
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#313
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
This latest situation makes me really wonder if he's mentally disabled? How is it possible to continuously screw up (if the story is true)? Certainly the team could be looking for any excuse to terminate given the previous f-ups, but he always seems to outdo his prior mistake (call it what you will). The guy is an entitled idiot and I just can't explain how he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Crazy.
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entitlement for sure.
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01-08-2022, 08:40 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
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Someone should be taking a chance on him. Signing him for the rest of the season on league min is a worthwhile gamble for some organizations whose season is floundering anyway.
Lets not kid ourselves, there are and have been way worse/lots of awful human beings in the NHL who have been brought back into the fraternity with no issues. Literally guys like McTavish and Probert who have murdered and assaulted people and the hockey old boys have brought them right back. He scores at almost a point per game and is tough as nails. He will help someone win on the ice, and I tend to think the locker room chemistry talk is overrated. Sure it's uncomfortable being in the workplace with a jerk but I don't think it's the case that it means you can't get results always, am sure there have been lots of sports teams over the years who have had the talent and won even though guys hated each other.
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01-08-2022, 08:44 PM
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#315
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Lifetime Suspension
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So trying hard enough gets you out of any contract, I see.
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01-08-2022, 08:44 PM
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#316
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Someone should be taking a chance on him. Signing him for the rest of the season on league min is a worthwhile gamble for some organizations whose season is floundering anyway.
Lets not kid ourselves, there are and have been way worse/lots of awful human beings in the NHL who have been brought back into the fraternity with no issues. Literally guys like McTavish and Probert who have murdered and assaulted people and the hockey old boys have brought them right back. He scores at almost a point per game and is tough as nails. He will help someone win on the ice, and I tend to think the locker room chemistry talk is overrated. Sure it's uncomfortable being in the workplace with a jerk but I don't think it's the case that it means you can't get results always, am sure there have been lots of sports teams over the years who have had the talent and won even though guys hated each other.
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Any specific examples?
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01-08-2022, 08:57 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Any specific examples?
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To be honest I am too lazy to dig deep and then get into the debate as to how Kane would be different but there have been lots that are out there in public domain and I'm sure way more we don't know about, Shaq and Kobe come to mind immediately as guys who hated each other and won three straight titles. Bad chemistry isn't ideal but teams still win in spite of it.
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01-08-2022, 09:04 PM
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#318
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
To be honest I am too lazy to dig deep and then get into the debate as to how Kane would be different but there have been lots that are out there in public domain and I'm sure way more we don't know about, Shaq and Kobe come to mind immediately as guys who hated each other and won three straight titles. Bad chemistry isn't ideal but teams still win in spite of it.
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I was completely unaware of that.
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01-08-2022, 09:08 PM
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#319
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Franchise Player
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Did a little research.
“In 2013, Bryant said that the two "have a really, really good relationship now", calling it "a good lesson for all of us." He said the two had "mutual respect" for each other, while O'Neal commented that they had an "athletic dislike" for each other but "never had a real dislike".
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01-08-2022, 09:23 PM
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#320
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Franchise Player
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Plenty of professional athlete's can't stand one another, big egos often clash, Iginla and Morris weren't exactly bosom buddies nor was Phaneuf with a few teammates but Kane brings a new level of hatefulness to the locker room.
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