[PGT] Fire Ward and trade Bennett

[monkeyman]

I'm not sure what Ward is coaching these guys, but I see a lot of guys trying to make cute plays, dangerous and poor passes and those are not being addressed by this coach.
He's focusing on the wrong things and holding the wrong guys accountable.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Looking at it again, it was really bad. He glided in, didn’t try to cover anyone, and a wraparound was never a realistic play. If that was it, he’d have continued skating behind the net. Haas was his guy and he just let him go.

This is a guy who wants to play centre, after all. He needs to D a little harder.

Hanafin's job was to cover the side of the net that was scored on, not to slide onto the ice and take out his goaltender. Yes Sam could have made a better read and probably a better effort there, but he wasn't the main reason for the goal against.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

The question I want to ask Ward is, this is because of the players not trying hard enough, or his system is ?

Ward specifically said his players are not trying hard enough.

[TheSquatch]

delete

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

That whole sequence was a cluster, starting Hanifin sliding into his own goalie, maybe don't slide into your own goalie. If you would bench him for the rest of the game there then you and Ward would make a great $hite coaching tandem.

Hanifin is at least trying and if Bennett takes his man there is no goal there. Bennett has three points, its not like he is a difference maker.

If I was the coach he wouldn't be playing at all...guy asked for a trade he can pound sand

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I agree, but the return now will be dreadful

It’ll fit in then.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Oh it’s probably impossible to change coaches now, and no way ownership lets Tre fire another coach after 16 games.

Doesn’t change that Ward is not an NHL quality Head Coach.

I don’t think I can do any better; but I’m not the bar that he should be measured against, it’s other NHL head coaches and honestly he’s not even on the same level. Sometimes there is a reason a guy is an assistant coach for 20 years, this feels like one of those situations.

I’d be shocked if Ward gets another NHL head coaching job after his time as head coach in Calgary, and you can add him to the list of the 6 other Flames coaches before him that had the same fate.

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there.

[Nsd1]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1362995035176923139

Not in great company with this stat.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

https://twitter.com/user/status/1362995035176923139

It’s just a bad team.

Bad GM. Bad coach. Bad roster.

It is heartbreaking. This isn’t a fluke/weird stat, it just is what it is.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Hanafin's job was to cover the side of the net that was scored on, not to slide onto the ice and take out his goaltender. Yes Sam could have made a better read and probably a better effort there, but he wasn't the main reason for the goal against.

Not being the “main reason” for the goal isn’t the reason for benching if that’s the play it was for (which of course is speculation). It was the lack of effort.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Treliving has to be feeling the heat at this point. He has gone through a lot of coaches and has made some pretty significant trades and signings. He has been given the time and resources to build the team he wants, and this is it.

I have a feeling that if Treliving fires Ward, they are going to use it as a chance to clean house completely.

There is a lot wrong with the team, but ultimately you need to look at the guy who constructed it.

What is wrong with how it's constructed? Goalie is good. Pretty deep defence. Lindholm, Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Ryan at centre (I realize not all available or all playing centre)? Goalie out from defence to centers this team is good.

I think Treliving has been very good for this organization. People think oh just hire this guy or trade for that guy. There are budgets and constraints. It's ridiculous reading how easy people think it is. Just clueless.

[Dion]

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It’s just a bad team.

Bad GM. Bad coach. Bad roster.

It is heartbreaking. This isn’t a fluke/weird stat, it just is what it is.

The saddest part is we’re likely going to see guys like Gaudreau and maybe even Monahan look even better on another team where they actually have NHL quality head coaches.

And then yell “Why didn’t he show that type of compete and effort in Calgary” when in reality effort was never the issue.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It’s just a bad team.

Bad GM. Bad coach. Bad roster.

It is heartbreaking. This isn’t a fluke/weird stat, it just is what it is.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Not being the “main reason” for the goal isn’t the reason for benching if that’s the play it was for (which of course is speculation). It was the lack of effort.

let's be real, dozens of plays like that happen all the time from multiple forwards but a save is made.

If Hanifin doesn't take Rittich out, and a save is made, I really doubt Bennett is benched. Bad coaches overvalue goal events all the time. It's actually the same with Simon last game.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Ward specifically said his players are not trying hard enough.

This reminds me of Brent Sutter, "PLAY HARDER!!!"

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Burn13

Why was Bennett benched like it's all his fault?

Genius Geoff’s best idea

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

What is wrong with how it's constructed? Goalie is good. Pretty deep defence. Lindholm, Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Ryan at centre (I realize not all available or all playing centre)? Goalie out from defence to centers this team is good.

I think Treliving has been very good for this organization. People think oh just hire this guy or trade for that guy. There are budgets and constraints. It's ridiculous reading how easy people think it is. Just clueless.

Outside of Markstron and Tanev his free agent signings have been a bust. When you factor in some of the buyots, it's cost the team money that could have gone to other players.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Hanifin is at least trying and if Bennett takes his man there is no goal there. Bennett has three points, its not like he is a difference maker.

If I was the coach he wouldn't be playing at all...guy asked for a trade he can pound sand

At least trying? He layed down and slid into the goalie. Fail.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

What is wrong with how it's constructed? Goalie is good. Pretty deep defence. Lindholm, Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Ryan at centre (I realize not all available or all playing centre)? Goalie out from defence to centers this team is good.

I think Treliving has been very good for this organization. People think oh just hire this guy or trade for that guy. There are budgets and constraints. It's ridiculous reading how easy people think it is. Just clueless.

Every other good team has a better centre than either Lindholm or Monahan. This is why the Flames are insisting on Lindholm at C - because they hope a team with “good” 1A and 1B centres can compete with teams with an elite C. But so many teams have 2: Matthews and Tavares, for example. Overall, you can say they have good centres in the top 9. But man for man, most top teams have more skilled guys.