02-23-2020, 04:36 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Not taking control of their own destiny is what got them in this mess in the first place. The team often plays like they don't need to win because their direct competition will lose too so it's no big deal. They play uninspired and uninterested at times but if they actually gave a crap, they wouldn't be scoreboard watching.
At this point, their only real hope is if every other team in the playoff race with them just disappears. When you watch other teams, there's intensity but the Flames are playing like it's mid November. Sure, they can make the playoffs but if, and that's a BIG if, they can't depend on other teams to do their dirty work for them so they'll be pooched.
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02-23-2020, 05:36 AM
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#302
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Rumors in Chicago Press have the Canes already negotiating for one of our Goalies...I wouldn't doubt seeing Crawford in a Cane's jersey their next game, as I think that the 'Hawks will try to get him to waive his modified NTC. My feeling is that they will try to keep Lehner as the younger guy.
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How are the Bhawks farm goalies doing? Are either one of them ready to be promoted for backing up Lehner?
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02-23-2020, 05:37 AM
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#303
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Best part was Frederik Andersen re-entered the draft because he didn’t feel there was ample opportunity for playing time in Carolina and now has lost to a zamboni driver
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02-23-2020, 05:39 AM
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#304
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Canes are in a really bad spot and the Hawks can afford to trade a goalie...........could end up working out well for your team. Be really strange seeing Crawford in a jersey different than the Hawks, though.
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Just like it was strange seeing Cam Ward in a jersey different than the Hurricanes. He ended up going to the Bhawks.
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02-23-2020, 05:40 AM
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#305
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Originally Posted by timbit
Not to be repetitive....
When and if their high end players decide to consistently play to their capabilities,
they will make the playoffs.
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This is a 100 percent true and it is true for all the bubble playoff teams. There are teams whose General Managers have ensured that there is so much talent on the teams, that the coaching is so good, that they can still make the playoffs when their best players are not consistently at their best. The Flames are not one of those teams. They do not have more than 4 or 5 good forwards. Their defence is average and their coaching is quite poor.
Much like other teams who may have significant holes like the Flames and are on the bubble, the Flames top players need to play well every single night in order to qualify for the playoffs. If they can do that down the stretch, the Flames will make it.
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02-23-2020, 05:44 AM
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#306
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
What about being out of the playoff picture with some of our competitors having games in hand on us gives anyone the impression that this team controls it's own destiny? That's very suspect right now. Lose next game and our destiny is largely out of our control
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The Flames are in 10th place and they are only 7 points behind Vegas, 5 points behind the Canucks and 4 points behind the Oilers. The Flames could still get first place in the division.
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02-23-2020, 05:51 AM
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#307
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Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
Preds win in a shootout.
This OOT is kinda sucky.
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The Jets losing in reg time was the only thing that went right.
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02-23-2020, 05:55 AM
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#308
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames are in 10th place and they are only 7 points behind Vegas, 5 points behind the Canucks and 4 points behind the Oilers. The Flames could still get first place in the division.
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Green text noted, but at this point things need to go right for us to get into the playoffs. That's not "in control of our own destiny" that's "fighting for our lives" imo.
We can talk about being in control of our destiny when we're on top of this division. Right now this team should be ####ing desperate. If they're not theres a huge problem.
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02-23-2020, 06:01 AM
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#309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Green text noted, but at this point things need to go right for us to get into the playoffs. That's not "in control of our own destiny" that's "fighting for our lives" imo.
We can talk about being in control of our destiny when we're on top of this division. Right now this team should be ####ing desperate. If they're not theres a huge problem.
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I agree 100 percent. Top 3 in the division is pretty much a pipedream at this point. First place is definitely not a possibility. The Flames are amongst 5 teams fighting it out for 2 spots and at least 2 of those teams are in a better position that the Flames are and all of them beat the Flames in the event of a tie.
It is definitely sell time for the Flames.
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02-23-2020, 06:14 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by Tsawwassen
How are the Bhawks farm goalies doing? Are either one of them ready to be promoted for backing up Lehner?
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Hawks have a 25yo guy named Colin Delia, who played 16 games for the 'Hawks last year, and was the starting goalie in the Scott Foster game, the year before. They would be comfortable with Delia backing up Lehner. Behind Delia, they've a 24yo Finn, Kevin Lankinen, that the 'Hawks have dressed, but not used, for a couple of games this season. He is also a well regarded prospect.
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02-23-2020, 06:21 AM
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#311
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Last edited by Tsawwassen; 02-23-2020 at 06:29 AM.
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02-23-2020, 07:20 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Lost in all the Ayers hype is just how badly the referees blew it on that penalty call. That wasn't even a minor penalty, let alone the major they initially gave. And it led to the GWG. Though it's pretty damned hilarious that Toronto managed all of 10 shots in half a game. Oof.
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02-23-2020, 09:50 AM
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#313
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At least it was an example of the replay system working...sort of.
Cam Ward only retired in this off-season (and did the 1 day contract thing with CAR). I wonder if CAR has asked him to start stretching? They've only got 44 contracts signed, so it wouldn't be crazy to throw him a league min. bonus laden contract (perhaps a handshake that he does a few ambassador things if he doesn't end up playing or something). It would at least be a good bluff to keep a tiny bit of leverage in trade talks
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02-23-2020, 09:59 AM
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#314
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Lost in all the Ayers hype is just how badly the referees blew it on that penalty call. That wasn't even a minor penalty, let alone the major they initially gave. And it led to the GWG. Though it's pretty damned hilarious that Toronto managed all of 10 shots in half a game. Oof.
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It's a penalty...fist to head was the initial contact. And goalies aren't fair game outside the crease contrary to popular belief. Two mins was enough though
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02-23-2020, 12:18 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Goalies aren't fair game, of course, but that wasn't a check either. It was two guys racing for the same puck not seeing each other and resulting in an unintended collision. The penalty call was entirely based on result: the fact that a goalie went out, did something very stupid given the situation, and got himself injured in the process.
Last edited by Resolute 14; 02-23-2020 at 12:20 PM.
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02-23-2020, 01:20 PM
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I think you're probably right that the penalty was based on the result - or at least the size of the collision. But on the other hand, you're responsible as a player to be aware enough of your surroundings not to do something illegal to the guys you're on the ice with, and ultimately, he hit the dude in the head. I think you have a reasonable point about it being an unintentional collision and that it generally wouldn't be called if it weren't on a goaltender, and maybe as a result it's debatable as to whether the call should have been made, in hindsight. But I don't think you can reasonably say the refs "blew it" by deciding to make the call. It's not that obvious a situation.
I also don't really know if you can say that that call was the difference in the game. Impossible to say one way or the other.
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02-23-2020, 01:28 PM
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#317
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
It's a penalty...fist to head was the initial contact. And goalies aren't fair game outside the crease contrary to popular belief. Two mins was enough though
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He didn’t even see him. They both blindly collided at full speed. I’m okay with the penalty call, but no one is arguing weather or not goalies are fair game. At least no one worth engaging.
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