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Old 11-22-2019, 03:17 PM   #301
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Usually when the GM defends the coach in public the next step is the coach is fired
The kiss of death. Surprised to see it come already.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:18 PM   #302
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:19 PM   #303
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If Peters is gone, well so is Tre. they are a tandum now
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Rittich is as good as most starters IMO. He makes the odd young goalie mistake.

IMO last year may have been an outlier. But so is this one. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Since Rittich has never really played a starters amount of starts in an NHL season, the best that can be said is that he's been an average NHL goal tender when given the chance.

His lifetime save % and GAA is .909 and 2.74. All very average at best.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:24 PM   #305
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Treliving points at himself and says the manager has been horse####, he has to get going. So let’s be accountable

Maybe Tre is admitting that he's known there have been issues within the room for a while and that up to now, he hasn't done enough to sort out the problem. I see this as a shot across the players' bow and that nobody is safe from being traded if the situation doesn't improve. At least I hope that's what is happening.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:29 PM   #306
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Usually when the GM defends the coach in public the next step is the coach is fired
I don't know if it's usually the next step or that's just the perception. But 100% of coaches fired during a season were defended in public by the GM like a week before.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:30 PM   #307
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I don't know if it's usually the next step or that's just the perception. But 100% of coaches fired during a season were defended in public by the GM like a week before.
You're right, the next step is usually losing 2-3 games in a row, or another game or two by a blowout.

Going 1-4 or 0-4 on a road trip would be that next step.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:34 PM   #308
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Unfortunately, I think Peters is gonna get fired after the road trip. We are talking about the Flames here who will try every little bit to make the playoffs to get knocked out in the first round.
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I don't think Peters is a great coach. But anyone else have that feeling that the locker room is looking at what happened in Toronto and thinking they can do the same to one of Babcock's disciples?

Some core, huh?
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Treliving has to get going? Lord. What is he, dialing faster and harder to other GMs?
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Treliving is clearly trying to shift the pressure off the players and the coach. I'm not sure how anyone else could see otherwise.
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Treliving is clearly trying to shift the pressure off the players and the coach. I'm not sure how anyone else could see otherwise.
I don’t think anyone thinks otherwise.

Just what he said is kind of stupid.

Tre being better is going to stop Johnny getting funneled in the corner? It’s absurd. He is too far removed from the day to day on ice work to take blame off coaches and players.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:05 PM   #314
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Treliving is clearly trying to shift the pressure off the players and the coach. I'm not sure how anyone else could see otherwise.
Yeah exactly.

It was sort of a ham handed way of doing it, but I agree that's what he was trying to do.
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Since Rittich has never really played a starters amount of starts in an NHL season, the best that can be said is that he's been an average NHL goal tender when given the chance.

His lifetime save % and GAA is .909 and 2.74. All very average at best.
Agree that he hasn't really proven that he can sustain a whole season with a starter's load, but I think there is good reason for people to generally feel satisfied with Rittich. Compared to Hiller, Elliott and Smith, he looks much better visually, and lets in far fewer stinkers that those guys were regularly known for. Much of last year's story was "imagine how good Calgary would be with league-average goaltending!" - I think Rittich meets that standard for the bulk of the time that he's been a Flame.

TBH I wasn't a fan of the Peters hiring, but I also feel like it is premature to fire him, especially if we don't have a sure-fire top coach lined up. Though it's hard to evaluate who top coaches are it seems - three years ago, would anyone been thinking "hmmm, not sure if I want" about Mike Babcock?
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How do you know whether or not he has worked on his diet and/or fitness?
I’ve worked at a restaurant where he asked to not get the veggies. Can confirm
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:00 PM   #317
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The kiss of death has officially been casted. Peter's may not be the only one going also, could be a core player if the right deal comes along as well.

This next week is gonna determine the fate for some in the locker room.
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The thing that bugs me about Treliving is he talks the talk of building a fast, tough, big, hard to play against team but has done absolutely nothing to go that way. I'd argue he has, in fact, gone the opposite way. Look how many small and non physical players on the roster. Especially in the bottom six. Even the bigger bodies we do have are cream puffs. Janko, Backlund are prime examples.
The attempt get Reaves shows he is interested in it
As well as the Hamonic trade
The Lucic trade
As well as the attempt to get Kadri

Everyone wants big, strong, fast, physical, skilled players. Teams just aren’t handing them out. But yes, it is an ongoing issue.
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:55 PM   #319
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The kiss of death has officially been casted. Peter's may not be the only one going also, could be a core player if the right deal comes along as well.

This next week is gonna determine the fate for some in the locker room.
Two more weeks of play this bad, and this season is cooked, and things get really interesting.

We’ve been told by this crap before. That they’ll figure it out, that the answers are in the room. Remember that run the team went on when they won 10 straight or whatever with Elliott? Only to get swept in round 1. The first 60 games of last year, only to get destroyed in the playoffs after a bad final 20 or so games of the season.

This team can’t be good consistently. They can’t put it together and overcome the holes in the roster to become more than the sum of their parts...and the reality of that is what has me, at least tonight, thinking the best thing for this team is to continue being what it has been for the last few weeks. Bottom out. Stop teasing us, because if we’re being honest we know they can’t do it. We know it. Over and over again, in a very short few years, the team structured in this fashion cannot consistently get the job done.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:17 PM   #320
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Call me if we make the playoffs. Until then it’s all just noise.
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