[PGT] Flames win in OT!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Jason York. I think he typically does colour for sens games.

And I thought he was excellent. If we could get him and Hrudey all the time I’d be happy. As the colour guy I mean. Ball can do PBP all day long.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

No, they were GIFTED the most lenient expansion draft rules ever, combined with the fact that they were the only expansion team selecting players in the draft.

Go back and look at the garbage all the other expansion teams had to choose from.

They also paid more for expansion than any other team. That's why they were "gifted" players. Their owners paid the other owners to let them have better players than the cheapskates who came before them.

The players, of course, got nothing. (Which is why Gary Bettman still runs the NHL, like it or not - he works for only 31 people.)

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And I thought he was excellent. If we could get him and Hrudey all the time I’d be happy. As the colour guy I mean. Ball can do PBP all day long.

He was ok. He constantly got player names wrong, but a large part of that is likely familiarity with the team. Perhaps he'd be better if he were the regular guy.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by direwolf

The Vegas thing is frustrating as hell. As Flames fans, it feels like we've waited a lifetime for Calgary to ice an elite Cup contending team, while Vegas is gifted one right out of the gate in their first season. So freakin' annoying.

Meh. Not a team in the nhl I’d rather face in the first round than Vegas. Primed for an upset. Beginners luck.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

He was ok. He constantly got player names wrong, but a large part of that is likely familiarity with the team. Perhaps he'd be better if he were the regular guy.

But that’s minor. What was important is that he wasn’t annoying, had good insight and didn’t ramble on. Way too much criticism when these guys make tiny, meaningless mistakes.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Or if you prefer

Originally Posted by jayswin

ummm

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that questionable combination

I wouldn't have thought much of it but the "or if you prefer" was really weird.

[VilleN]

Unpopular opinion: for the last two months I think Brodie has been excellent, almost back to his old self. Still the occasional gaffe, but I think he is incredibly important to our team.


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[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

They also paid more for expansion than any other team. That's why they were "gifted" players. Their owners paid the other owners to let them have better players than the cheapskates who came before them.

The players, of course, got nothing. (Which is why Gary Bettman still runs the NHL, like it or not - he works for only 31 people.)

I know WHY they were gifted those cushy rules, it doesn't change the fact that they were indeed gifted a better than average team out of the gate.

If the Flames window somehow gets slammed shut by expansion I'll probably move on from following this league.

I honestly love it, but I want a winner to cheer for and after waiting 30 years for this org to assemble a good young core it's going to chap me something fierce to have that core get blocked by a team like Vegas being able to assemble a 100+ point team right out of the gate. The Flames haven't had a 100+ point team in 12 years! ...and only that one time in like 30 years!

It's going to get even worse with a 2nd team slated to get the same butter soft rules in the next few years, and they will also likely be shoe horned into our division somehow. But the worst part, is this time we won't be losing a UFA like Deryk Frickin Engelland to expansion. We will more likely lose a solid top 4 defenseman or useful young forward with upside. Or even a good young goalie like Rittich, Gillies or Parsons.

Anyways, not the place for this I guess. I'm just bitter. As shaky of a season as the Flames are having, without Vegas running away with the division, we are lumped in with the California teams battling for the division title and have a very good shot at home ice in round 1. Chaps my ass.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Unpopular opinion: for the last two months I think Brodie has been excellent, almost back to his old self. Still the occasional gaffe, but I think he is incredibly important to our team.


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1 goal in his last 51 games, -8 (worst on team), and useless on the PP. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I’m not sure you are watching the same games as a lot of us are.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Meh. Not a team in the nhl I’d rather face in the first round than Vegas. Primed for an upset. Beginners luck.

100% agree with this. Vegas will be a first round exit. I’ve watched a few of their games including the one here Tuesday. A first overall team they are not. I’d rather play them in the playoffs than any other team in the Pacific or Central Division.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

1 goal in his last 51 games, -8 (worst on team), and useless on the PP. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I’m not sure you are watching the same games as a lot of us are.

Brodie was never much of a goal scorer, and the D corps as a whole is scoring less... I’m not positive, but I believe his +\- is improving over the last two months... in any case, I warned you it wasn’t popular.


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[chummer]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

1 goal in his last 51 games, -8 (worst on team), and useless on the PP. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I’m not sure you are watching the same games as a lot of us are.

Wow. How useless was he in the 3 on 3?

For a guy who has season's tickets I have no idea why you would spend so much money to jack up your blood pressure. You're the same with the Stamps and Jays.

Not a shot, you just seem to get no enjoyment out of watching your teams.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by chummer

Wow. How useless was he in the 3 on 3?

For a guy who has season's tickets I have no idea why you would spend so much money to jack up your blood pressure. You're the same with the Stamps and Jays.

Not a shot, you just seem to get no enjoyment out of watching your teams.

3 on 3 is a gimic, though a very entertaining one. Being good at 3 on 3 does not transition to the actual game of hockey at all. It’s end to end, system-less pond hockey. It’s tailor made for a player like Brodie who can skate.

And because I spend so much time and money on the Stamps and Flames, that is the exact reason I’m so angry lately. I’m tired of watching mediocre teams not getting it done, and I’m even more tired of people who likely don’t spend the time and money season ticket holders do telling them to relax and everything is sunshine and rainbows.

That’s said, I thought the Flames were excellent last night and controlled the game. Even when it was 2-0 I knew we weren’t out of it which isn’t a feeling I’ve been getting lately at all.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Bingo

We know!

I'm true to myself no pretending.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by getbak

Monahan's 27 career GWGs (in 370 games) is now tied with Gary Roberts for 5th all-time in Calgary. He has played 215 fewer games as a Flame than Roberts.

Only Iginla, Fleury, Nieuwendyk, and Mullen are ahead of him (Mullen had 33 GWG in only 345 games played with the Flames -- none of them were in OT).

Mullen, now that guy was a hockey player!! One of the all time best Flames.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Simon96Taco

"Gifted"? I don't think "gifted" is the right word to describe how Vegas has assembled a competitive team. I think that "admirably" would be far more appropriate.

Actually, considering consensus being that McPhee botched the expansion draft pretty badly on paper (picking players he could have gotten for free, piling up depth defensemen with no room on the roster, making deals to stay away from very useful players etc), he was gifted fairly cushy circumstances.

[FlatLandFlamesFan]

The criticism of Brodie gets a bit much
He handles the puck probably more than any other d-man on the team, plays against some of the best opposition, is "undersized" compared many other D-man in the league, takes very few penalties. and when he is skating can create chaos on the break out.
So his gafs get magnified but in perspective he is a top pairing D-man on most teams in this league.
His move along the boards near the corner the shift prior to his bobbled pass was a thing of beauty.
Sometimes we need to look at our opponents blue line and realize how good a group we have is.

Thought Johnny was on a mission last night amazing game. A few more giveaways sneaking back into our game again. Was extremely happy to see GG shorten the bench finally.
Big road trip coming up , feed the snek !

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I wouldn't have thought much of it but the "or if you prefer" was really weird.

Really???

this is now considered something off base somehow?

If I need to dumb it down, which apparently is the case...it was slow dancing vs fast happy dancing.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

Actually, considering consensus being that McPhee botched the expansion draft pretty badly on paper (picking players he could have gotten for free, piling up depth defensemen with no room on the roster, making deals to stay away from very useful players etc), he was gifted fairly cushy circumstances.

Well, either that, or it just demonstrates that most fans really don't know as much as they think they do about building a successful NHL franchise.

[Kovaz]

Curious what everyone's thoughts were on the line juggling and shortening the bench that took place in this game. Personally, one of my biggest criticisms of Gulutzan has been his insistence on rolling 1-2-3-4 in all situations, so to see him double-shift the top 6 and keep the 4th line on the bench was encouraging. I think it's easy to forget that he's still young for a coach, and he should be learning and improving on the job.

For reference: http://www.shiftchart.com/game/2018-...ckhawks-flames.

Here's what our bottom 6 looked like

1st period

• Mangiapane-Bennett-Brouwer
• Lazar-Stajan-Hathaway

2nd period
These combos each saw a shift:

• Lazar-Bennett-Brouwer
• Mangiapane-Stajan-Hathaway
• Tkachuk-Bennett-Lazar
• Brouwer-Stajan-Hathaway
• Bennett-Backlund-Brouwer
• Lazar-Stajan-Hathaway

3rd period

• Bennett-Stajan-Hathaway (one shift)
• Bennett-Stajan-Brouwer

Mangiapane and Lazar benched, Hathaway benched for the last 10 minutes