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Old 10-29-2016, 12:39 PM   #301
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I would like to see Dougie and Brodie paired together for an extended stretch. That should be our top pair for the next 4+ years. Dougie is easily our best offensive Dman and he should get more minutes.
Gio is easily better than Hamilton offensively and that's no slight to Hamilton. Gio is a top 5-10 offensive d man in the NHL.

Gio has outscored Hamilton in each of the last 4 seasons.
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Gio is easily better than Hamilton offensively and that's no slight to Hamilton. Gio is a top 5-10 offensive d man in the NHL.

Gio has outscored Hamilton in each of the last 4 seasons.
Somebody will give the " but he's only 23" bull####.
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Gio is easily better than Hamilton offensively and that's no slight to Hamilton. Gio is a top 5-10 offensive d man in the NHL.

Gio has outscored Hamilton in each of the last 4 seasons.
I will say that if Hamilton started last season on the first line PP he would have led the Flames in defensemen scoring easily.
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Old 10-29-2016, 01:25 PM   #305
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I will say that if Hamilton started last season on the first line PP he would have led the Flames in defensemen scoring easily. I think Hamilton is better on the power play but right now Gio is better offensively 5 on 5 because he's better at pinching.
i dont see how thats true at all. Hamilton cant walk the blue line like giordano can.
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I used to think Gio was top 5-10 in the NHL, but I'm not so sure anymore.
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i dont see how thats true at all. Hamilton cant walk the blue line like giordano can.
Hamilton has a heavier shot and he's more gifted physically. Gio is great but when he was 23 he was in the AHL and Hamilton already has a back to back 40+ point seasons in the NHL. It's only a matter of time until Hamilton assumes the role of leading scorer from the blue line.
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Somebody will give the " but he's only 23" bull####.
What are you saying? He's not 23?

Was Gio even a full time NHL player at 23? I think that's the point folks are making when they quote Dougie's age, look what he's already accomplishing years ahead of his prime as a D-man.
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Hamilton has a heavier shot and he's more gifted physically. Gio is great but when he was 23 he was in the AHL and Hamilton already has a back to back 40+ point seasons in the NHL. It's only a matter of time until Hamilton assumes the role of leading scorer from the blue line.
true hamilton might have a better shot but just because a player is better than another player at a certain age doesnt mean they will overtake them. If that was the case every nhl dman under the age of 25 would project to be better than giordano since they were better at the same age.
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Hamilton has a heavier shot and he's more gifted physically. Gio is great but when he was 23 he was in the AHL and Hamilton already has a back to back 40+ point seasons in the NHL. It's only a matter of time until Hamilton assumes the role of leading scorer from the blue line.
Well that's great and all but the comment wasn't about who will be better in the future, it was about now and as of right now Gio is better offensively.
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What are you saying? He's not 23?

Was Gio even a full time NHL player at 23? I think that's the point folks are making when they quote Dougie's age, look what he's already accomplishing years ahead of his prime as a D-man.
True but development is not linear. Is Ekblad going to be exponentially better than Almost any other defenseman because he was better at 18?
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True but development is not linear. Is Ekblad going to be exponentially better than Almost any other defenseman because he was better at 18?
Agreed, but it's pretty fair to suggest Hamilton is yet to have hit his prime and is still improving.
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Whoa Dougie! Slowdown... defensemen aren't supposed score this many goals!
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What are you saying? He's not 23?

Was Gio even a full time NHL player at 23? I think that's the point folks are making when they quote Dougie's age, look what he's already accomplishing years ahead of his prime as a D-man.
I'm saying he's paid 5+ million per year. To not put high expectations on a player with that salary is absurd.
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I'm saying he's paid 5+ million per year. To not put high expectations on a player with that salary is absurd.
True, but top 30 in points by defensemen since he came into the league at 23 years old costs that much or more.
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I'm saying he's paid 5+ million per year. To not put high expectations on a player with that salary is absurd.
Sure, but doesn't make aging bull****.
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I'm saying he's paid 5+ million per year. To not put high expectations on a player with that salary is absurd.
True, but he earns that salary with his production.

Most 40+ point Dmen make at least that much or more.

People bring up his age because they don't think he's peaked as a Dman yet, not because they don't have high expectations for him.
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