12-15-2016, 12:47 PM
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#301
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mile
I can't believe Jay fell for that fake idol. That looked so cheaply made and it didn't even have the note congratulating him on finding the idol. His exit was hilarious, but at least he was a good sport about it.
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I thought that it did? He found it in the exact same manner that he'd found his other one (inside something marked with a logo) and I would have sworn that it had a note from one of David's previous Idols wrapped around it. I didn't blame him for a second for falling for it. He had every reason to believe it was legit.
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12-15-2016, 01:06 PM
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#302
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Franchise Player
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Adam got all the votes...so maybe Ken should have kept David, it certainly couldn't have gone any worse
Honestly after he told everyone about his moms cancer at final tribal it was over...right or wrong. I have never been more sure of the winner before the votes had been read
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12-15-2016, 01:19 PM
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#303
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger
I thought that it did? He found it in the exact same manner that he'd found his other one (inside something marked with a logo) and I would have sworn that it had a note from one of David's previous Idols wrapped around it. I didn't blame him for a second for falling for it. He had every reason to believe it was legit.
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Yup, it was the most legit fake idol ever. Had the old note.
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12-15-2016, 01:29 PM
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#304
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Franchise Player
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Jury management is the most important part of the game by far. Ken was completely terrible with it. Again, I like Ken, but I'm sure after 30 some days with him and his self righteous attitude and him looking down at everyone would have wore on the jury. He really made no attempt at connecting with people outside of David and Hanna and was quick to judge, like how he 'tested' Will screwing him over at the time. When it got time to the jury and end stretch, no one wanted Ken out for being Ken, only because they thought the idol might be played for bigger fishes. It was quite apparent that he was not a threat to win.
Hanna was a floater who came off as slimy. She admitted it herself, the only person she didn't betray or lie to was Ken, and he didn't have a vote. She alienated herself from the jurors by being an unreliable, untrustworthy person. Brett said as much when he called her out for flipping once again. No one saw her as a mastermind of any of the votes, even if she was deciding who went home at times, instead they were just hoping she would land with them at each tribal council. And when she did have input on getting people out, she chose someone like Sunday...because Hanna knew that Sunday was a bigger goat than her. I agree she wasn't terrible, and might have played the most strategic game by being one of the few who wasn't blindsided except for the Michaela vote. But she didn't sell herself well, no one thought of her as a mastermind. No one saw the moves she was making as good. They saw her a neurotic, paranoid and untrustworthy.
Adam was the best with his jury management. Taylor hated him when he left, but by being able to grow such a relationship with Jay it probably had a huge impact on Taylor and therefore Michelle. He actually connected with people on a personal level that the other two didn't. That's Survivor 101 at this point.
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12-15-2016, 02:42 PM
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#305
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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That was so clearly going to be a landslide. Ken's whole game was being loyal, but then he flipped at the end thus destroying any chance he had. Hannah just flipped the entire game and pissed people off. Adam's game was the least bad, the jury was locked in before he even mentioned his mom.
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12-15-2016, 05:45 PM
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#306
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
The whole group is online if you Google it
I think it might be the best set of returnees ever, maybe 2ND behind heroes vs villains
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How Probst of Probst to celebrate Michaela on being on the cast again while completely ignoring Zeke who's also returning.
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12-15-2016, 06:14 PM
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#307
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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It's just typical Probst/Burnett logic. Assuming one doesn't check online, they want it to be a surprise that Zeke is there when they announce the entire cast. They've done this before.
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12-16-2016, 12:17 AM
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#308
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: A place for Mom
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Congrats to Weitz, and D to the iddy.
What a great season. It was fun watching the blindsides and flipping. I hope next season doesn't suck but there are so many returnees.
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12-16-2016, 07:22 AM
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#309
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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I thought for sure that Ken deserved a few votes, say whatever you want but the whole season people are talking about how the game has evolved, it's about who can adapt and shift and screw alliances you have to be constantly moving from voting block to voting block. Well Ken did the complete opposite, he surrounded himself with a core alliance of people he trusted and that alliance took him all the way to the final 3. Call him a goat if you will, but in the edit it's clear he did what he wanted when he wanted even if it was a bone head move (like calling people out who were throwing his name around). I agree with KFF that he shouldn't have won but given the game he played he deserved at least some votes.
Chris or whatever that lawyers name is, his comment at the end really irked me, like how bitter can you look? And to not even hear Ken out before you sit down? Never seen a person in this game that thought they were so deadly but yet did so little. If you're such a better player than Ken, why aren't you sitting at the final 3? The best part is, he was wrong! Cocky lawyer thinks he can read the play but he read it wrong, it was Hannah that went to Ken to get him to flip not Adam.
Adam... Adam... as someone who has lost their Mom I can has feels for him, but it was painful listening to him tell that story on national TV. He could have just said "I got back in, she was on her death bed, I got to say Good Bye.." it was just so personal I felt bad for him. I thought for sure Jeff would jump in and save him but he just let it go on and on for TV ratings sake. As far as winning, well, I guess out of the 3 he deserved it.. but at the same time he didn't really. He often confused playing hard with playing bad. He was an open book to most people around him, especially Hannah and especially at the end. Hannah had the power at that last vote not Adam, and he was cocky enough to sit in the hammock like it was all wrapped up. He more often than not gave up way more information than he should have and mostly to the wrong people, like his 'big move' with Taylor on the beach. He read that COMPLETELY wrong.
I think he was still there so late in the game because he was by far the least threatening of a handful of people that were left, like David. So then he twisted that into his own game about keeping a shield in front of him AFTER JAY DESCRIBED THAT STRATEGY TO HIM! We never once heard him talk about that in confessionals. I dunno, it was an awesome season, one of the best I've seen. But I was a bit disappointed that a better player didn't win and that the jury went full sympathy vote.
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12-16-2016, 09:45 AM
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#310
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Franchise Player
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Finally was able to watch the Finale. I must say that I was pretty happy with the season. I like the blind sides and what not.
Nothing I hate more in reality TV than boring predictable votes. I like excitement!
I thought the fake idol was brilliant.
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12-16-2016, 11:02 AM
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#311
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary
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I think he was still there so late in the game because he was by far the least threatening of a handful of people that were left, like David. So then he twisted that into his own game about keeping a shield in front of him AFTER JAY DESCRIBED THAT STRATEGY TO HIM! We never once heard him talk about that in confessionals. I dunno, it was an awesome season, one of the best I've seen. But I was a bit disappointed that a better player didn't win and that the jury went full sympathy vote.
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Yeah, what a bummer. David definitely deserved the win, but Ken pretty much had to flip on him to have any chance with the jury. David really had to win that last challenge to make it to the final three, and Ken really must have rubbed people the wrong way to not get a single vote.
Adam played poorly and got lucky IMO. He made huge blunders in terms of who he trusted, even as deep in the game as the final four. And to be honest, I found the story about his mom more uncomfortable than anything — he kept it to himself the whole game only to reveal it to the jury right before the vote? He just seemed a little quick with the waterworks, and a little too eager to tell his story if you ask me.
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12-16-2016, 08:01 PM
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#312
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Poster
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
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Agreed, except for Sandra. Would love to see her on the show just so she can get voted out first. That "there's bigger fish to fry" reason is starting to wear out.
I'm not too pleased that Mari and Jessica from this season didnt get to go again.
Also, Spencer would've been awesome to have on the show for a 3rd go
I'm glad that Caleb is back. Going out by medivac in an immunity challenge is never a good way to go
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