06-24-2016, 02:43 PM
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#301
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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ya, this is just so sad. I don't know how you don't rush to the hospital when your child is so stiff they can't be put into a car seat.
They should get the maximum.
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06-24-2016, 02:45 PM
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#302
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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How is this not murder?
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06-24-2016, 02:46 PM
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#303
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Kilt & Caber
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So disturbing. How could they just watch their child suffer like that?
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06-24-2016, 02:47 PM
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#304
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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This situation is so sad... I can't bear to follow the twitter feed, as vague as the details are.
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06-24-2016, 02:48 PM
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#305
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First Line Centre
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Judge: Mom started giving Ezekiel rescue breaths, he began breathing again. David told 911 didn't need ambulance, they would drive him.
WTF? "Yah we're good - he only stopped breathing."
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06-24-2016, 02:51 PM
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#306
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Kilt & Caber
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Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
"The stewardship of children is the parents' responsibility!" Man bursts into courtroom yelling. Sheriffs whisk him out. Judge continues
Wow.
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06-24-2016, 02:52 PM
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#307
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Franchise Player
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^ Yeah, that sort of thing makes me just super depressed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KelVarnsen
How is this not murder?
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It wasn't intentional. They didn't want the kid to die. They're just useless, horrible, negligent parents.
EDIT: The relevant provision of the CCC.
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Originally Posted by Criminal Code of Canada
Murder
229 Culpable homicide is murder
(a) where the person who causes the death of a human being
(i) means to cause his death, or
(ii) means to cause him bodily harm that he knows is likely to cause his death, and is reckless whether death ensues or not;
(b) where a person, meaning to cause death to a human being or meaning to cause him bodily harm that he knows is likely to cause his death, and being reckless whether death ensues or not, by accident or mistake causes death to another human being, notwithstanding that he does not mean to cause death or bodily harm to that human being; or
(c) where a person, for an unlawful object, does anything that he knows or ought to know is likely to cause death, and thereby causes death to a human being, notwithstanding that he desires to effect his object without causing death or bodily harm to any human being.
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Last edited by CorsiHockeyLeague; 06-24-2016 at 03:00 PM.
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06-24-2016, 03:10 PM
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#308
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Franchise Player
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Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
Judge: not proven that the Stephans' failure actually "caused" Ezekiel's death.
Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
Judge: says Crown's jail term of 3-4.5 years is too excessive.
Sigh... I was expecting at least 3 years.
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06-24-2016, 03:15 PM
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#309
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Scoring Winger
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nm. I'm confused...
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06-24-2016, 03:22 PM
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#310
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Sounds like husbands social media/media stupidity might come back to bite him in the ass. Good.
@ValFortney
Judge: David's comments were more focused on consequences to himself than remorse.
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@ValFortney
Judge: criticizing David Stephan's appearance on anti-vaxxer video. "The trial was not about vaccination."
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Judge: Reading aloud David Stephan's comments on video, blaming the ambulance for the child's death.
There ya go, jackass.
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06-24-2016, 03:24 PM
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#311
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Franchise Player
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Yeah starting to sound like she might get off light while he gets a tougher sentence. But it also sounds like it's going to be less than 2 years.
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06-24-2016, 03:24 PM
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#312
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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I like this judge.
He is nailing the nuance of the case.
Can he rule on the family law part of whether they lose their kids or not or just the criminal part.
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06-24-2016, 03:25 PM
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#313
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Valerie Fortney @ValFortney
Judge: Reading aloud David Stephan's comments on video, blaming the ambulance for the child's death.
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06-24-2016, 03:30 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
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Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
3 months for Collet Stephan, served in community under strict house arrest. Crowd claps
Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
4 months jail for David Stephan; people in crowd cry out "What?"
... Seriously?
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06-24-2016, 03:31 PM
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#315
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Garbage that the Mother gets a lighter sentence than the father
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06-24-2016, 03:31 PM
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#316
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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What a ####ing joke.
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06-24-2016, 03:31 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Garbage that the Mother gets a lighter sentence than the father
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Not really. The judge laid out some pretty good reasons as to why.
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06-24-2016, 03:32 PM
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#318
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Franchise Player
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And somehow they think this is a bad result for them.
Valerie Fortney
@ValFortney
Crowd in spectators gallery bursting into tears, sobs; David Stephan looks at judge, Collet sobbing, rocking back and forth.
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06-24-2016, 03:33 PM
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#319
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Not really. The judge laid out some pretty good reasons as to why.
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The stage that each is in in their grieving process should not affect the sentance they get.
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06-24-2016, 03:33 PM
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#320
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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